• Pfhorrest
    3.6k
    Trump's transformation of the Republican party into the tinfoil-hat-nutjob-circus party is complete. :victory:Baden

    And the fact that about half the voters voted for him anyway is a commensurate condemnation of the state of American culture.
  • Wayfarer
    10.4k
    And the fact that about half the voters voted for him anyway is a commensurate condemnation of the state of American culture.Pfhorrest

    Sad, sad, sad. I heard a story yesterday about patients, desperately ill with COVID-19, shrieking at the hospital staff trying to save their lives that 'COVID is a political conspiracy'.

    This is Trump's true poison - demolishing any idea of there being an objective reality. He has sucked tens of millions of people into his vortex of delusion.
  • Janus
    9.5k
    Man, that isn't funny!
  • Wayfarer
    10.4k
    After failing repeatedly in court to overturn election results, President Trump is taking the extraordinary step of reaching out directly to Republican state legislators as he tries to subvert the Electoral College process, inviting Michigan lawmakers to meet with him at the White House on Friday.

    A source with knowledge of the trip said that Mr. Trump would meet with Michigan’s Senate majority leader, Mike Shirkey, and speaker of the House, Lee Chatfield, late Friday afternoon. Both lawmakers are Republicans who have said that whoever has the most votes in Michigan after the results are certified will get the state’s 16 electoral votes.

    The White House invitation to Republican lawmakers in a battleground state is the latest — and the most brazen — salvo in a scattershot campaign-after-the-campaign waged by Mr. Trump and his allies to cast doubt on President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s decisive victory.
    — NY Times

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/19/us/joe-biden-trump-updates/trump-tries-to-subvert-the-election-inviting-michigan-gop-lawmakers-to-the-white-house

    And Mitch McConnell stands by and says nothing while the 'Trump allies' work to overthrow the results of a validly-conducted election.
  • Baden
    11k


    What about this?

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  • Michael
    9.3k
    The sheer incompetence of the Trump administration and campaign is staggering.
  • Baden
    11k


    Yes, but let's not forget that Ghouliani is a sleeper agent hired by George Soros, Ayatollah Khomeini and Hugo Chavez (who is alive and well and living in a Hillary Clinton bodysuit) to destroy the Republican party. :party:
  • Janus
    9.5k
    Yep, that's funny...but also kinda sad...
  • Baden
    11k


    Indeed, poor Hugo. RIP. :death:
  • Todd Martin
    34
    Barack Obama, a young black man, first in American history, with an Arabic name, becomes president, mirabile dictu, seeming to usher in the great opening of American society so many of us had looked forward to, while adhering to all the long established conventions of our govt...

    Then his Immediate successor is an old white selfish bigot, incarnation of king George of England, who would aspire to absolute power, and subvert all those same conventions established over centuries...

    One of the tiredest bromides about our system of govt, liberal democracy, that it is fragile, becomes suddenly true, and looking back over the history of the Ancient Greek and Roman regimes one must wonder whether it is true that a state’s demise occurs precisely at the moment it seems to be in its fullest flower, fulfilling its greatest potential, as the Roman republic was when a philosopher had just served as head of state, and the greatest moral authority, Cato Minor, was soon to deny Caesar the glory of pardoning him by taking his own life in that famous and ghastly way.
  • Pfhorrest
    3.6k
    In this case it seems somewhat plausible that it was precisely the election of Obama that triggered the backlash that lead to Trump. His election spurred hope for minority identities, while his administration did little to address the systemic economic problems that plague people of all types alike. This both pissed off the pre-existing contingent of bigots who were just unhappy that anyone not exactly like them was in charge, and left a lot of other people, who are demographically like them but may not have been so explicitly bigoted before, still hurting despite the promises of hope and change, and looking for a scapegoat to blame for that. Hence the motley assortment of everyone already anti-left and everyone who the so-called “left” of America had let down, scrambling for any “outsider” to shake things up... and there’s Trump.
  • Todd Martin
    34
    I don’t have time to respond to you just now Phforrest, but I like your answer; I will respond tomorrow, when I have had time to more fully consider your words, logous, rationes: it is my bedtime.
  • ssu
    3.5k
    The sheer incompetence of the Trump administration and campaign is staggering.Michael

    Look at this way: as Trump makes this a huge fiasco of whining and lost court cases, the less he will have influence later come 2022 and 2024.

    There's only so many redneck Republicans. Just like not all Democrats were enthusiastic Bernie supporters.
  • Wayfarer
    10.4k
    Where Hugo Chavez got into the act:

    Sidney Powell claimed that widely used voting machines from the election technology company Dominion Voting Systems featured software created "at the direction" of former Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to swing his own election results, and that the company has ties to the Clinton Foundation and Soros.

    Facts first: None of this is true. Dominion has no corporate ties with Venezuela, the Clinton Foundation or Soros.
    — CNN

    Meanwhile, Rudy's Dripping Hair Dye stole the show. It was infinitely more classy than anything he actually said.

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  • Baden
    11k


    “What the hell was going on with Rudy?... Was his brain shitting itself? I didn’t even know that sideburns could get periods. You know your legal strategy is fucked up when even your hair starts crying about it.”

    -Trevor Noah

    :rofl:
  • StreetlightX
    6.4k
    My fav comparison:

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  • Benkei
    3.8k
    Looks like a fly with diarrhoe took a shit.
  • Hippyhead
    899
    So I'm still trying to figure out what Trump's goal is in denying the validity of the election.

    Is it something simple like the desire to stay in the spotlight as long as possible? Is it basically just spoiled brat egoism?

    Or is there a larger plan in the works? Is he already running for 2024? Is he planning on transitioning from king to king maker, a new version of Rush Limbaugh? Maybe start his own media network called TrumpTV? Is he preparing his base to accept a coming coup?

    Is it just a business calculation, with all publicity judged to be good publicity for his brand renting business?

    Has he just trapped himself inside of an ego outburst? Or is his ever scheming mind cooking up a larger agenda? If so, what?
  • Ciceronianus the White
    1.4k
    Meanwhile, Rudy's Dripping Hair Dye stole the show. It was infinitely more classy than anything he actually said.Wayfarer

    As a lawyer, and as someone of (largely) Italian descent, I'm horrified by this seemingly demented and contemptible faccia di cazzo.
  • Todd Martin
    34
    I’m not sure Trump’s ascension to power was set up by Obama’s presidency so much as by Hillary’s candidacy...

    In general, the eight years in which Obama served were marked by uneventfulness. True, we had a Great Recession, but the recovery was swift, and soon the economy was as robust as ever. One could imagine him being re-elected indefinitely, like FDR, and the cruelest thing I ever heard him say, a man so mild and gentle, was, after Hillary lost, “I could have won this election”: that was an unnecessary public belly-ache directed at his former faithful Secretary of State...though it was probably true...

    ...but Hillary was just too milquetoast, not a figure to inspire like her predecessor. It was time for another rock star to inspire the electorate...but how different a character!
  • Wayfarer
    10.4k
    So I'm still trying to figure out what Trump's goal is in denying the validity of the election.Hippyhead

    Pure desperation.

    I’m not sure Trump’s ascension to power was set up by Obama’s presidency so much as by Hillary’s candidacy...Todd Martin

    Agree. Hillary Clinton seemed uniquely hated by a lot of people. But there was also a strange confluence of circumstances that conspired to see Trump elected. And when he was elected, he was utterly surprised by it. According to Michael Wolff's Fire and Fury, 'Melania cried bitter tears' when it became clear he'd won. Trump looked like a poker player with a pair of two's who had just been called.
  • Todd Martin
    34
    But surely a girl like Melania would dry her tears, and revel in the persona of the greatest beauty of the free world; why else would she have married a Donald Trump in the first place?
  • Wayfarer
    10.4k
    No, my take is that she realised she would suddenly be a public person, almost like public property. Rich American sugar-daddy is one thing, being on display in the public eye with every utterance being judged is something else altogether. Besides, she probably knew that it would all end in tears, which it surely is.

    Meanwhile, news that Trump's attempt to persuade Michigan's GOP to over-ride the popular vote has failed.

    President Trump on Friday suffered another blow to his unprecedented effort to undo the election results when a delegation of Michigan Republicans, after meeting with Mr. Trump at the White House, said that they would “follow the normal process” in certifying the vote results and honor the outcome.

    President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. won Michigan, and a state board is scheduled to consider certifying the vote on Monday.

    While Mr. Trump has made baseless charges of voter fraud in Michigan and elsewhere, Michigan’s top two Republican lawmakers — who had been summoned to the White House by the president — said after the meeting that they had “not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election” in the state. In a statement, they vowed not to interfere with the certification process.

    “As legislative leaders, we will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding Michigan’s electors, just as we have said throughout this election,” said the two officials, Mike Shirkey, the leader of the State Senate, and Lee Chatfield, the speaker of the State House.

    “Michigan’s certification process should be a deliberate process free from threats and intimidation,” they added. “Allegations of fraudulent behavior should be taken seriously, thoroughly investigated, and if proven, prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And the candidates who win the most votes win elections and Michigan’s 16 electoral votes. These are simple truths that should provide confidence in our elections.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/20/us/joe-biden-trump/michigan-lawmakers-after-meeting-with-trump-reaffirm-that-they-will-honor-the-states-vote
  • Todd Martin
    34
    Maybe her tears resulted from the unfaithfulness of her husband, who she knew was having sexual relations with professional prostitutes, even while she was pregnant with his last son.
  • Wayfarer
    10.4k
    Maybe that, too. Although I had the impression that this would be expected, part of the contract. If you're going to hook a billionaire, it comes with the territory.
  • Benkei
    3.8k
    God forbid that normal rules apply to billionaires. The ease with which you assume all this is unfortunately true for too many people.
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