• unimportant
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    I was thinking about this lately in how comical it is how the world is made like that.

    Sex is like a dirty thing. I am not talking about morals or culturally. Maybe it has something to do with it but I doubt any but the most liberated would be open to having sex in front of anyone. It is like someone watching you defecate. We know people do it, but we don't want to personally watch them - well in the form of porn yes which is what made me think of it.

    Porn is totally divorced from the idea of producing babies, yet the act of sex is meant to make them. How weird is that?

    Even 'vanilla' sex that leads to climax is an animalistic type of thing and the baby emerges down the line somewhere.

    For 'square' type of people I wonder how they ever 'do the do' and actually have sex. I think of very reserved Brits such as Richard Dawkins, or just the idea of the 'stiff upper lip' Brit in general and think 'how did they ever manage to loosen up enough to have sex?' I think of them just being like the old cliche of 'lay back and think of England' where sex is a necessary evil that they must get over and done with to get to the important outcome of bearing progeny.

    The idea of bringing up a child on the other hand is the most saccharin sweet idea in society.

    I just find it so funny how the world is designed like that, where a 'loving couple' can be respected and all the family supports their union and you know they are doing 'the nasty'.
  • AmadeusD
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    I'm not quite sure this warranted a thread, but, perhaps showing my hand, you are vastly underestimating hte liberality of people in general about sex. You more than likely have friends who are absolute freaks, swingers, kinksters etc... but they respect you and so do not intrude on your lifestyle with theirs. A huge number of people are in this position.
  • L'éléphant
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    I'm not quite sure this warranted a thread, but, perhaps showing my hand, you are vastly underestimating hte liberality of people in general about sex. You more than likely have friends who are absolute freaks, swingers, kinksters etc... but they respect you and so do not intrude on your lifestyle with theirs. A huge number of people are in this position.AmadeusD

    :sweat: lol.

    For 'square' type of people I wonder how they ever 'do the do' and actually have sex. I think of very reserved Brits such as Richard Dawkins, or just the idea of the 'stiff upper lip' Brit in general and think 'how did they ever manage to loosen up enough to have sex?'unimportant
    Believe me, there are uptight introverts whose sex acts match their own personality. Are you a quiet personality and don't interact much? Then the way you are in bed with another person would mirror that.
  • Tzeentch
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    I don't think sex is dirty, but instead is (or ought to be) an intimate act - just like taking a dump, or sobbing hysterically, etc. - it doesn't belong in the public space.
  • Leontiskos
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    You are basically claiming that there is an incommensurability between the act of sex and the effect of procreation. It's an interesting argument. My suggestion would be that sex is not as irreducibly bestial as it has come to be seen in our culture. In any case, this is another outgrowth of the fact that man is the strange amalgam that lies between the angels and the beasts.
  • unimportant
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    incommensurability between the act of sex and the effect of procreationLeontiskos

    Indeed.

    Most things are of a like kind to produce more of the same.

    Not sure how to articulate, but living a certain kind of way produces more of the same. If someone lives a life of abusing their bodies they can expect results in kind. If someone eats healthy they can expect healthy results.

    I suppose what I mean is that sex is nasty by nature, and nasty in a good way, due to being naughty, but babies are like a wholesome thing. It is like a strange alchemy where one base material produces its opposite.
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