• NOS4A2
    9.6k


    Haven't you insisted that such influence on people is impossible?

    It is. What is possible is people believing nonsense. A combo of moral panic and decline in mental health is a bad idea.
  • NOS4A2
    9.6k
    An Infowars reporter was murdered the other day. Could be random act of violence, but given their status as persona non grata among some circles, there is perhaps some political motives. He also appeared on Ukraine’s “hit list”.

  • tim wood
    9.5k
    Yeah, a central banker who has pictures with Ghislaine Maxwell. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.NOS4A2
    And of whom else do we have such pictures?
  • frank
    16.6k
    And of whom else do we have such pictures?tim wood

    This is a really distasteful topic.
  • NOS4A2
    9.6k


    Do mean the man who banned Epstein from his club for hitting on young girls?
  • tim wood
    9.5k
    This is a really distasteful topic.frank
    Great! Say something substantive and true about Trump that is not distasteful. Anything?
  • tim wood
    9.5k
    Do mean the man who banned Epstein from his club for hitting on young girls?NOS4A2
    This is the nicest I I can find:

    "Trump banned Jeffrey Epstein from Mar-a-Lago after sex criminal hit on member’s daughter, book claims
    Published Tue, Aug 4 20202:12 PM EDTUpdated Tue, Aug 4 20204:05 PM EDT
    Key Points
    President Donald Trump banned wealthy investor Jeffrey Epstein from his exclusive Mar-a-Lago club for hitting on the teenage daughter of another member, according to a new book entitled “The Grifter’s Club.”
    Trump has repeatedly offered well wishes to Ghislaine Maxwell, who is charged with enabling Epstein’s serial sexual abuse of underage girls."

    Otherwise, he was apparently Epstein's buddy. Did you think I'd just take your worthless word for anything? But why reply to you, you being just a liar and dissembler.
  • NOS4A2
    9.6k


    There you go. You didn’t even know that did you? I wonder why. Glad I could help.
  • tim wood
    9.5k
    There you go. You didn’t even know that did you? I wonder why. Glad I could help.NOS4A2
    Another non sequitur courtesy of nos4. Thank you, nos4! Someone please throw him a banana and put a blanket over his cage.
  • NOS4A2
    9.6k


    Another non sequitur courtesy of nos4. Thank you, nos4! Someone please throw him a banana and put a blanket over his cage.

    My pleasure.
  • Mikie
    7k
    The place to come for all Twitter updates and Truth Social reposts, plus the NY Post and Fox News, of course.

    Always informative.
  • NOS4A2
    9.6k
    Redditors angry.

    More news.

  • Wayfarer
    23.8k
    So, never mind that Trump's hare-brained tarrif wars are tanking the share market. Never mind that his war on US Aid is greatly excacerbating the worldwide spread of tuberculosis. Never mind that he's trampling civil liberties and constitutional norms. What's really important, is trying to help out that 'great patriot', who is doing so much to 'make America great', by doing an advertisement for Tesla on the White House lawn. The world's richest man, who possesses more wealth than almost everyone else in the USA combined, can sure use a bit of Presidential philanthropy himself. Never mind complaints about once again debasing the office of the President for crass commercial ends.
  • frank
    16.6k
    Redditors angry.NOS4A2

    Especially after they banned all the Trump supporters. :lol:
  • jorndoe
    3.8k
    Just FYI, someone summarized Trump's Canada talk. Feb 24, 2025 remains a favorite among readers.

    Nov 30,  2018 - The US, Canada and Mexico finalize a trade agreement, USMCA. Trump personally negotiates the terms and signs the document, celebrating it as "the greatest trade agreement in history".
    Nov 29,  2024 - In a face to face meeting, Trump threatens the Canadian PM, Trudeau, that he will be imposing 25% tariffs and that if Canada wants to avoid that, it should join the US as a state.
    Nov 30,  2024 - Trump publicly calls the PM "Governor Trudeau" and instructs his staff to only address him as Governor going forward. He again suggests Canada should join the US.
    Dec  3,  2024 - Trump remarks that he would split Canada into two states once annexed.
    Dec 10,  2024 - Trump posts that the majority of Canadians support annexation, despite public polling that only 13% of Canadians would consider the idea.
    Dec 18,  2024 - Trump again falsely states that the majority of Canadians support annexation and that one of his lapdogs, Gretzky, should have a leadership role in that new scenario.
    Jan  7,  2025 - At a press conference, Trump says that he would use economic force to destroy the Canadian economy to annex it.
    Jan 14,  2025 - Trump again claims that most Canadians want to be American, despite new polls showing only 10% of us are open to the idea.
    Jan 20,  2025 - During his inaugural address, Trump says that the US will "expand its territory" during his second term.
    Jan 23,  2025 - At the World Economic Forum, Trump says that Canada can avoid tariffs and economic collapse if it joins the US. He says this in front of representatives from most countries in the world.
    Jan 24,  2025 - Trump states publicly that Canada "will" become a state.
    Jan 31,  2025 - Trump announces a 25% tariff on all Canadian imports to begin the next day.
    Feb  2,  2025 - Trump refers to Canada as its "Cherished 51st state" and that it should join the US to avoid tariffs.
    Feb  3,  2025 - A one month delay is agreed upon. Trump, in a conversation with Trudeau states that he doesn't think existing border treaties with Canada are valid, and need to be revised.
    Feb  7,  2025 - In a closed door meeting with his cabinet, Trudeau is recorded, without his knowledge, telling everyone that he believes strongly that Trump is serious and that he stated his reason for annexation as Canadian resources.
    Feb  9,  2025 - In a Super Bowl pre-game interview, Trump says that he's serious about his threats, calling it a "viable consideration for expanding US territory".
    Feb 10,  2025 - Trump announces an additional 25% tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from Canada to come into effect Mar 12.
    Feb 24,  2025 - Trump publicly remarks that whoever signed the USMCA agreement is an idiot. He was the one that signed it.
    Feb 27,  2025 - Reports of American spy planes and reconnaissance aircraft flying over southern Alberta and Saskatchewan.
    Mar 4-6, 2025 - Tariffs come into effect. Canada retaliates with it's own tariffs. Tariffs are again postponed until Apr 1 after a huge market backlash.
    Mar  4,  2025 - In an address to a joint session of congress, Trump states that the US will own Greenland "one way or the other".
    Mar  5,  2025 - US Secretary of Commerce Lutnick told Canadian finance minister LeBlanc that Trump "had come to realize that the relationship between the US and Canada was governed by a slew of agreements and treaties that were easy to abandon".
    Mar  7,  2025 - Unconfirmed Memorandum and maps leaked on twitter reveal Trump is allegedly planning to annex the entirety of the great lakes and Southern Ontario, home to 13,491,332 Canadians. This amounts to 35.25% of Canada's total population and includes its largest city, Toronto. This region accounts for 38% of the Canadian economy, and its loss would make Canada's independence functionally impossible.
    Mar  8,  2025 - Canada's foreign minister warns European allies that their government considers Canada to be under existential threat.
    Mar  9,  2025 - Carney, the new Canadian PM, in his acceptance speech, states that Trump is seeking to destroy Canada, and its way of life.
    Mar 11,  2025 - President Trump threatens to "permanently shut down the automobile manufacturing business in Canada" if Canada does not drop a 250% to 390% tariff on US dairy products, which he doesn't state only kicks in after a certain quantity of tariff-free US dairy enters Canada, a quantity that was originally negotiated and agreed to by Trump during the USMCA in 2018.
  • jorndoe
    3.8k
    If the U.S. has other agenda in mind and if war is what the U.S. wants, be it a tariff war, a trade war or any other type of war, we’re ready to fight till the end.Lin Jian · Mar 4, 2025

    Hate to admit it, but the Chinese foreign ministry seems to be more or less right about the fentanyl accusations. They did take the opportunity to raise threats.

    Investors spy the dawn of a tectonic shift away from US markets
    — Dhara Ranasinghe, Amanda Cooper, Yoruk Bahceli, Tom Westbrook, Samuel Shen, Elisa Martinuzzi, Richard Chang · Reuters · Mar 6, 2025

    I suppose something like this might happen. Who would Trump blame, then?

    To Republicans, Conservatives, and all great Americans, Elon Musk is “putting it on the line” in order to help our Nation, and he is doing a FANTASTIC JOB! But the Radical Left Lunatics, as they often do, are trying to illegally and collusively boycott Tesla, one of the World’s great automakers, and Elon’s “baby,” in order to attack and do harm to Elon, and everything he stands for. They tried to do it to me at the 2024 Presidential Ballot Box, but how did that work out? In any event, I’m going to buy a brand new Tesla tomorrow morning as a show of confidence and support for Elon Musk, a truly great American. Why should he be punished for putting his tremendous skills to work in order to help MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN???Donald J. Trump · Mar 11, 2025

    How many in his audience will buy that one can boycott illegally? When someone in his position rants like so, there will be people who buy it (sort of seeding/feeding the crap), so maybe a better question is what effects it will have.
  • Relativist
    3k
    Trump publicly remarks that whoever signed the USMCA agreement is an idijorndoe
    This sounded to bizarre to be true, so I googled it. Here's one of the many stories that shows it's true:

    Donald Trump insults himself by slamming trade agreement he signed in live blunder

    The actual news is providing some stiff competition for the Onion.
  • creativesoul
    12k
    Interesting that someone who purportedly does not want to "control any markets" guts legislation put in place to protect consumers from all sorts of financial injury knowingly and inevitably caused by certain business practices all of which were possible as a result of a lack of those same regulations.
    — creativesoul

    I don't know.
    frank

    Clearly.

    Amongst other things, some consumer protection laws used to forbid predatory and other fraudulent financial business practices where otherwise innocent and unknowing consumers trust what's being told to them by whoever is supposed to be providing them a service. Add to that the loosening of the language in banking regulations, as well as loosening of banking rules/restrictions allowing all or most banks to behave like investment banks instead of traditional banks and the sheer lack of oversight after the Clinton administration nixed Glass Steagall(which kept financial institutions from recklessly tanking the market/economy like they had earlier), and you had banks creating and selling financial instruments that 'looked like' traditional safe mortgage-backed instruments. They weren't. Rather, they were based on bad(horrible) loans that every single party involved except the consumers knew were doomed for default/foreclosure. Hence, that's the reason the instruments were created. They even had a name for them. NINJA loans. In the end, the only ones holding the bag were those poor unwitting folk who purchased these mutual funds and the homeowners.

    The real estate agents, companies, underwriters, and lending institutions had already made their money.

    It was called the financial crash of 2008/09. You may be too young to remember. I'm not.

    Trump just dismantled the consumer protections enacted afterwards. He's also systematically firing everyone and anyone who would have oversight over his and other government officials' actions.

    On the one hand, he claims to want to root out waste, fraud, and abuse, and on the other he gets rid of everyone who's responsible for doing so.

    Yeah. He's full of shit and has convinced all sorts of otherwise unknowing people that he's 'fixing' something. He's fixing it alright. In his and his friends' favor. Just another day in an America where the overwhelming majority of regular blue-collar working-class people are being convinced to vote against their own best interests.
  • ssu
    9.1k
    The "man of peace" is wanting the Pentagon (or more accurately SOUTHCOM) to draw plans on taking Panama. I guess with this madman, it wasn't enough that the company taking care of harbours became an American company.

    (March 13th, 2025) President Donald Trump has directed the Pentagon to prepare plans for carrying out his threat to "take back" the Panama Canal, including by military force if needed, two U.S. officials familiar with the situation told NBC News Thursday.

    According to the outlet, the officials said that U.S. Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) is drawing up potential plans that run the gamut from working more closely with Panama's military to a less likely scenario in which U.S. troops invade the country and take the canal by force. They also said that SOUTHCOM commander Adm. Alvin Holsey has presented draft strategies to be reviewed by U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who is scheduled to visit Panama next month.

    The officials explained that the likelihood of a U.S invasion depended on the level of cooperation shown by the Panamanian military.

    Trump has repeatedly refused to rule out use of military force to seize control of the vital U.S.-built waterway, as well as Greenland, an autonomous territory of NATO ally Denmark.

    Last week during his joint address to Congress, Trump proclaimed that "to further enhance our national security, my administration will be reclaiming the Panama Canal," but his administration has not clarified precisely what "reclaiming" entails.

    The Republican president says the U.S. needs to retake control of the Panama Canal to enhance "economic security," and has falsely claimed that the waterway is "operated by China."

    Of the wars that Trump is lusting to have, this is the second likeliest war that Trump will have. He definitely wants the war against the Mexican cartel with armed drones swirling there... at some time. When he remembers that.
  • Christoffer
    2.3k
    So, never mind that Trump's hare-brained tarrif wars are tanking the share market. Never mind that his war on US Aid is greatly excacerbating the worldwide spread of tuberculosis. Never mind that he's trampling civil liberties and constitutional norms. What's really important, is trying to help out that 'great patriot', who is doing so much to 'make America great', by doing an advertisement for Tesla on the White House lawn. The world's richest man, who possesses more wealth than almost everyone else in the USA combined, can sure use a bit of Presidential philanthropy himself. Never mind complaints about once again debasing the office of the President for crass commercial ends.Wayfarer


    With all that's happening... I'm wondering if there's not a lot of gathering data on everything they do. So many things are so obviously corrupt (as in the video I shared previously), that I'm wondering if people wait for the mid-terms and then rage hellfire onto everyone involved in all of this.

    The thing is that Trump acts like a child, if no one tells him to be careful he's just going to do whatever he feels like and he doesn't seem to care for laws and regulations. So there will probably be tons of violations gathered and filed.

    I think he feels invincible; being elected regardless of all the legal battles and being sentenced guilty last year, it probably fueled his narcissism so much I think he feels untouchable. And that's a good thing - because that may push him into a recklessness that comes to bite him in the ass later on.

    If there are no consequences, then that's proof the US is a fundamentally corrupt state. Even if we say so, it's not before it's obvious that the people might do something about it.
  • ssu
    9.1k
    If there are no consequences, then that's proof the US is a fundamentally corrupt state. Even if we say so, it's not before it's obvious that the people might do something about it.Christoffer
    Never underestimate the strength of denial. People won't admit that they made any errors themselves. So let this all just sink in. Have Americans feel it in their wallet or purse when they go buy food or something else. Let the economy tank as it's doing.

    Have you noticed anybody defending Trump's annexations here? Is there a broad movement for all of this? Entanglement in foreign wars was what the issue that the MAGA people hated. So does then a war Mexico, Panama even Greenland go so well with that crowd? Or even with Canada? What threat does Canada be for the US? Nothing.
  • NOS4A2
    9.6k
    The EU elites are using emergency powers to circumvent parliament in order to push forward with their rearmament.

    https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2025/03/12/bypassing-parliament-is-a-mistake-meps-sidelined-on-new-rearm-europe-plan

    It’s interesting to watch what a parasite does when it finds itself without its host. For so long many EU states were able to build up their bloated welfare states under the protection of the US military and American taxpayer, who were essentially subsidizing their livelihoods until now. I suspect the old world will turn back to their old ways before long.
  • Benkei
    7.9k
    Love the jealous rant.
  • ssu
    9.1k
    The EU elites are using emergency powers to circumvent parliament in order to push forward with their rearmament.NOS4A2
    This just shows how little you know of Europe.

    The European Parliament isn't here important. It's the national Parliaments, because the decisions are rearmament is in the end made at the national level. The European Parliament is an OK talking arena that focuses on what the Commission and the EU bureaucracy is doing and what EU laws are made. That's fine, but this is actually a country-level issue.

    It’s interesting to watch what a parasite does when it finds itself without its host.NOS4A2
    Yeah, let's see what happens to Americans when the dollar isn't anymore the reserve currency and the World isn't their host anymore.
  • NOS4A2
    9.6k


    This just shows how little you know of Europe.

    The European Parliament isn't here important. It's the national Parliaments, because the decisions are rearmament is in the end made at the national level. The European Parliament is an OK talking arena that focuses on what the Commission and the EU bureaucracy is doing and what EU laws are made. That's fine, but this is actually a country-level issue.

    That’s not what the head of the European People's Party said. I guess he knows very little about the EU, according to ssu.

    Yeah, let's see what happens to Americans when the dollar isn't anymore the reserve currency and the World isn't their host anymore.

    Let’s see what happens to Europe when the reserve currency is the Yuan.
  • ssu
    9.1k
    That’s not what the head of the European People's Party said. I guess he knows very little about the EU, according to ssu.NOS4A2

    Do you understand the difference and the different roles of the European Parliament and the national Parliaments of each member state? And when it come to national defense, it's the member states that decide this. Ursula can simply talk about EU budgeting agreements etc. Another thing is what the countries actually do.

    Let’s see what happens to Europe when the reserve currency is the Yuan.NOS4A2

    You know that the USD being a reserve currency was a political decision made in Bretton Woods. There's no "natural" reserve currency. The most natural things is to have it like it has been for hundreds if not a few thousand years: you have different currencies and if you are handling international trade, then have a basket of currencies.
  • NOS4A2
    9.6k


    Do you understand the difference and the different roles of the European Parliament and the national Parliaments of each member state? And when it come to national defense, it's the member states that decide this. Ursula can simply talk about EU budgeting agreements etc. Another thing is what the countries actually do.

    Is parliament just a parliament in name only, then? I could care less, to be honest.

    But Ursula isn’t just talking about it; she’s come up with a plan to borrow hundreds of billions of dollars to send to member states so they can spend it on military or Ukraine without any oversight of EU parliament, whether parliament means anything to you or not. I guess that’s the schizophrenic nature of having both national and continental authorities. we’ll see what members do with it.

    You know that the USD being a reserve currency was a political decision made in Bretton Woods. There's no "natural" reserve currency. The most natural things is to have it like it has been for hundreds if not a few thousand years: you have different currencies and if you are handling international trade, then have a basket of currencies.

    I agree.
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