https://doge.gov/ And the official x account.

It ‘indicates’ that most of the 80,000 workers were offered $25,000 to quit their jobs. — Wayfarer

Yea. That's a pretty old down-sizing thing. In fact, I think $25,000 is probably a figure from some time in the last century. :grin:

is tantamount to saying:

"Take this chump change or leave with nothing." — Paine

No, it isn't. Are you American?

Do you condone Trump's blatant assault on free speech?

ICE Arrests Columbia Student Who Helped Lead Pro-Palestinian Protests

Trump seems to be conflating "pro-Palestinian" with anti-Semitic. The person in question is Mahmoud Khalil, a green-card holder, who's pregnant wife is a American citizen.

DHS spokesman, Tricia McLaughlin, alleged he “led activities aligned to Hamas, a designated terrorist organization” . I suspect the "tie to Hamas" is no more than being pro-Palestinian.

“Donna Lieberman, the executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union told CNN’s Boris Sanchez 'there is not a hint of a claim” that Khalil ever worked with Hamas.
The claim is that his opposition to the activities of Israel with regard to the Palestinians are grounds for him to be deported. And that is simply illegal,' Lieberman said. “It’s wrong. And it reeks of McCarthyism.” -- source

I see the claims but not the documents supporting them. You know, the sort that Congress would demand.

When it comes to trade, Americans are much more heavily regulated that Europeans, or really just about anybody else in the world. — frank

Seriously?


But again, the question I asked was not if Trump might control the markets, but the extent to whciht he markets might control Trump.

The ongoing slump in Wall Street, the result of policy chaos.

No, it isn't. Are you American? — frank

It is rare to have a position argued so forcibly.

How many Canucks have you gotten to want to join the US, @NOS4A2?




The likely new Canadian leader Mark Carney: "In trade, as in hockey, Canada will win."

Ah, I love the smell of trade war in the morning... :blush:

Seriously? — Banno

Yes.

But again, the question I asked was not if Trump might control the markets, but the extent to whciht he markets might control Trump. — Banno

Wall St appears to be ranging right now, which means it's just going up and down between two levels. It's presently going down, yes. It will hit a certain level and start going back up. Something bigger than unease about Trump would have to appear to make it head back down and cross the "support" level it's been respecting for about six months now. Anyone who tells you they know what it's going to do next is full of it. Absolutely no one knows.

It is rare to have a position argued so forcibly. — Paine

I'll take that as a "no."

Do you condone Trump's blatant assault on free speech?

No, as I’ve already stated.

I see the claims but not the documents supporting them. You know, the sort that Congress would demand.

It’s an official government website from an official arm of the executive branch. Transparency is tough to grapple with, but given past administrations, I kinda get it.

Yes. — frank

Ok. :rofl:

Yeah, a central banker who has pictures with Ghislaine Maxwell. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

But on the longer time than day or a week or two, the likely of it going down is quite high ...at least if measured in real prices (inflation adjusted).

And anyway, wasn't this totally predictable when an lunatic idiot in charge thinks that cross-the-range 25% tariffs will help the economy, but won't raise inflation / lower consumption?

How about for that stagflation, people?

Yeah, a central banker who has pictures with Ghislaine Maxwell. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. — NOS4A2

Oh, he's a friend of Trump?

Okay, well, those circles are small. What can you say. :lol:

A "no" from what?

The claims made by the Administration?

Ok. — Banno

Sounds like you're unfamiliar with the topic.

A "no" from what?

The claims made by the Administration? — Paine

They say being struck by lightning is a good thing.

But on the longer time than day or a week or two, the likely of it going down is quite high . — ssu

Then why don't you short some stocks?

One has been litigated with a microscope and proven stupid, the other is being defended and ruled fake news by the commentariat.

The free speech claim is just a smoke screen by his supporters. It's his other activities that got him notice. He will have his day in court, and then he will get his ass kicked out.

Another suicidal assassin taken out by the secret service yesterday.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gdwde82ldo.amp

At this point it’s impossible to discern who is or isn’t a potential assassin in Anti-Trumpistan.

Is this Project 2025 Tracker legit? Anyone know the details?

How much of a reduction in the value of their shares will folk abide? — Banno

The market corrects and then continues. They will abide, it's actual prices of milk and gasoline and bread that will get people up in arms.

When it comes to trade, Americans are much more heavily regulated that Europeans, or really just about anybody else in the world. — frank

Nonsense.

Nonsense — Benkei

It's been my experience as a day trader.

well, let's wait and see.

Shorting? I'm not a day trader either.

Last time I did anything like that (shorting the market) was during the Financial Crisis 2008, when I invested some money to an inverse fund. Luckily I did get my money back with some profit, but that was a really, really delicate move. I remember that then the alarm bell was for me when an financial advisor didn't find any stocks to invest in (which had happened never in my life and hasn't happened later). And actually in this forum (or it's predecessor) I got a stern warning before the first bank collapses happened and I started to look just how bad it was and what kind of a bubble there was in the US housing market. So never underestimate this Forum, actually.

What I've done now is take away some investments from stock and have more in cash and gold. And sold some timber, because the prices are high and likely my country will too face the Trump recession, the timber prices can even go down. And because it's physical timber, you basically do it once in your lifetime. My children can then sell again when they are at my age.

I've learnt that you can be happy when you just avoid the huge collapses and not lose your money in them.

The market corrects and then continues. They will abide, it's actual prices of milk and gasoline and bread that will get people up in arms. — Benkei

And as we can assume that Trump does follow the market and does listen to the complaints from industry execs, he will continue to hesitate for a while with the tariff stupidity. Because he cannot yet forget them totally. And that's enough to keep the markets really on the edge.

It's been my experience as a day trader. — frank

I'll accept that as true since consumer protections in the US are higher in this area due to the absence of a general duty of care for brokers and banks. But even then, anecdotal evidence in a single economic activity leads you to making general claims about regulation in these respective economic regions. I trust you see the issue with that leap?

that's enough to keep the markets really on the edge. — ssu

That pretty much characterizes the US markets. There is a high level of fear that flips the market trend almost daily. Smart people are gradually withdrawing from investing in individual stocks not knowing which tariffs will whack their industry next. There is definitely money to be made by the bears.

Until then it’s just a blizzard of lies and conspiracy theories, and it’s activating violent psychos to take it upon themselves to take matters into their own hands outside the democratic process. — NOS4A2

Haven't you insisted that such influence on people is impossible?

But even then, anecdotal evidence in a single economic activity leads you to making general claims about regulation in these respective economic regions — Benkei

Did you want a list of the things I can't do that everyone else in the world can?