What I find rather incredible is that you can collect "race" data in the first place and then even share it with third parties. This would be so incredibly illegal in the EU it wouldn't even be contemplated. — Benkei

It already happened to EU citizens didn't it?

Facebook lets you target people based on ethnicity. It included it as a targeting demographic explicitly in their ad workflow for clients thingybob. Despite that, it does not elicit ethnographic the information from users on their profiles, it merely infers ethnicity from their usage. If you can target ads to anti-semites explicitly, they will target based on how you're classified by their algorithms. You may be able to elicit ethnicity information by designing a survey that elicits it, then it gets stored and identified with the user etc...

Christopher Wylie's on the record saying Cambridge Analytica used essentially the same targeting methodology for Brexit campaigning as for Trump. Same Facebook data mining and targeting bollocks.

I thought the same thing... having watched a few documentaries.

It means that the 2016 election in the US, the EU referendum in the UK, in the same year, gave false results. UK Channel 4 broke the story on Cambridge Analytica in 2017 and exposed the covert manipulation of these elections via Facebook, before most people had realised what was going on.

But not the long history of racism in the US, Lord no! — Kenosha Kid

How the war on drugs has been implemented can be argued as part of how systemic racism continues, but anyway...

If I remember right, during the last election debates, Trump more or less threatened Clinton (on TV) due to something about an email server they had at home that might have received confidential emails. Don't recall his words offhand, but something like "Oh we'll be looking into that alright".

Why ain't anyone taking a good hard look at Trump's tax stuff and reporting back? Isn't this kind of relevant for a leader of a civilized society? :brow:

Would anyone care to make any predictions about what we might see in tonight's debate? I predict that fact-checkers will be working overtime tomorrow.

Deflection, non sequitor, straw man, & etc., etc., etc. Freedom of speech has, imo, intrinsic value. The speech itself? Not so much. The relationship of shovel to what is being shoveled. I am not going to ask you what you're shoveling, nos4; I have language for that. But what do you think it's worth?

What I find rather incredible is that you can collect "race" data in the first place and then even share it with third parties. This would be so incredibly illegal in the EU it wouldn't even be contemplated.

All the more reason we should avoid having our data stored in the US or even handled by companies established there. The only protection is to make sure your data is encrypted in transit and in storage. — Benkei

Unfortunately my country is run by geriatrics who, when given the opportunity to press, criticize and make these types of demands of tech industries, would rather ask Zuckerberg why their grandchild won't friend them on Facebook.

Would anyone care to make any predictions about what we might see in tonight's debate? I predict that fact-checkers will be working overtime tomorrow. — Relativist

I cannot understand why Biden is debating. My fantasy is that he observes that debating a liar is pointless; that his own policies are easily found on line and in his speeches (assuming they are); that the choice in this election is between America and Trump, one or the other, and that the audience is invited to watch a liar in action but that he, Biden, has better things to do, and walks off the stage.

Debating Trump - there's a metaphor for it, but not at hand - like wrestling a pig in a mudpuddle.

I cannot understand why Biden is debating. — tim wood

Biden is debating because the American masses need their fill of circus performance. Two clowns on stage, can you not be entertained?

Alas and woe! I can neither disagree nor be entertained. Even if Biden drools his way through he is still the only choice - Trump not being a choice but rather the disaster looming in default of a choice. Which way do you vote, StreetlightX? For I do not think you're a handwringer who whines that they can't vote for either.

I cannot understand why Biden is debating — tim wood

Debates are typically good for the underdog, and bad or neutral for the guy on top. Biden's on top, so he could possibly lose votes. On the other hand, he might have lost more votes if he ducked the debates.

What I hope Biden does is to behave like an adult. The contrast will be stark, and the stylistic difference may sway a few undecided voters.

I hope Biden challenges Trump to a push-up contest

For contrast with Donny. Check it from 12:50.

That's hilarious. The Left always think Trump is going down. I wouldn't be one bit surprised if he won the election.

Debate popcorn ready. Biden only needs to stay conscious to win. So it's 50/50, I reckon.

Starting with two shots and a beer

https://youtu.be/c3o8-bcfFvE :smirk:

Well, Bernie he gone, he been gone two nights
I ain't seen Bernie since night before last
I want to get drunk till I'm off of my mind ... — John Lee Hooker

:cool: Got the bourbon, got the beer, no scotch though :confused:

oh my god

oh my god this is awful

Here's the deal...

We're fucked...

Trump's braggadocio is in full swing

why? What's happening? I'm working so can't watch

Trump is steamrolling Biden and Biden isn't putting up a fight. It's bad.

Trump's nasty and often semi-coherent rambling is practically unchallenged, and Biden is mostly just vacillating between silence, anger, and saying "here's the deal" or "look". I had to turn it off rather than watch Biden sleep through the thorough gumming Trump has mustered.

It's a halfwit against a nitwit, and one of them is going to be president.

Well I think that was a bad performance for both, but I think Trump looked worse while providing less substance.

Moderator should have been a woman

Asking other members to do a coup on us