• NOS4A2
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    The USPS gives the reason why they’re removing the boxes, but these reasons are dismissed in favor of a trite conspiracy theory, Very thoughtful.
  • Michael
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    Am I reading this correctly? Is Chump actually ordering US mailboxes to be carted away?0 thru 9

    Well, according to this, the postmaster general met with Trump before "remov[ing] several top USPS officials, including two that oversaw day-to-day operations, and postal employees are now warning about the unexplained removal of vote-sorting machines," and according to this, some mailboxes have been removed.

    Whether this is because Trump instructed him to, or related to him and his wife having large investments in USPS competitors, or legitimate reasons isn't known, but they have said that they will stop further removals until after the election.

    Trump, though, has refused additional (much-needed) funding.
  • 0 thru 9
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    @NOS4A2
    Trite conspiracy? More like circumstantial evidence. Not proof. But where there’s smirk, there’s often fire. USPS answers directly to you know who. If Chumpy happens to get lucky and win in November, we can probably expect a full investigation into election meddling. No Russians needed this time.
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    Trump, though, has refused additional (much-needed) funding.Michael

    :up: Exactly. And many post offices are REDUCING their hours, and eliminating lunchtime services.

    Subtle as a brick to the head...
  • NOS4A2
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    They agreed to a 10 billion dollar loan just a couple weeks ago. Is that circumstantial evidence included in this theory?
  • NOS4A2
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    A story you won’t see on CNN, who doesn’t even mention it, is the election fraud in NJ.

    New Jersey has yet to get to its second of three rounds of 2020 elections, and so far we’ve seen misdelivered ballots, ballots dropped in piles in apartment lobbies and ballots burned in a mail truck fire. Meanwhile, clerks’ offices are inundated with a flood of mail-in ballots, plus thousands more applications for ballots, many from unaffiliated voters who clerks said don’t intend to vote in the July 7 primary.

    “It’s a mess,” said state Sen. Declan O’Scanlon, R-Monmouth.

    Gov. Phil Murphy ordered May’s local elections and July’s primaries to be conducted almost entirely by mail as part of the state’s effort to curb the spread of the coronavirus. Since then, the missteps have included:

    Republican voters in Somerset County received ballots meant for Democratic voters.Morris Township ballots were destroyed when a mail truck caught fire June 20.Possible computer glitches at the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission assigned the wrong party registration to some voters and sent two ballots to voters who have legally changed their names, according to New Jersey Globe.One out of 10 ballots in May’s local elections were not counted, according to NJ Spotlight.

    There is also new statewide voter registration software that has been glitchy, slowing the process further, clerks told NorthJersey.com.

    “It’s unfortunate and unfair that these elections are going to have an asterisk next to them,” Senate President Stephen Sweeney, D-Gloucester, said Monday.

    The allegations out of Paterson may be the most troubling. State Attorney General Gurbir Grewal alleges that Councilman Michael Jackson and Councilman-elect Alex Mendez handled mail-in ballots improperly. Jackson possessed too many mail-in ballots that were not his own and Mendez submitted voter registration applications he knew were false, Grewal claims. Two workers for a third campaign were also charged with election fraud.

    One woman said she was hired by the Mendez campaign to pick up and drop off numerous stacks of ballots eight days prior to the election, said a lawyer for one of the losing candidates.

    https://www.njherald.com/news/20200630/its-mess-paterson-voter-fraud-just-taste-of-mail-in-ballot-issues-plaguing-new-jersey

    Imagine it on a national scale.
  • tim wood
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    trite conspiracy theoryNOS4A2
    Really? You wear your thoughtless absurdity like a purple robe. One that a Brutus could "unkindly knock."
  • NOS4A2
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    Really? You wear your thoughtless absurdity like a purple robe. One that a Brutus could "unkindly knock."

    And you show your susceptibility to the basest of propaganda. The only ones seeking to alter the USPS and the election are the democrats, and this is proven by their push for mail-in voting and the massive provisions regarding elections and the USPS in the coronavirus relief packages. The only ones suppressing the vote are those saying it is dangerous to go to the voting booth. Mailboxes have been disappearing every year by the thousands for decades due to underuse. Of course only the most news-riddled could turn these facts into an anti-Trump conspiracy theory.
  • tim wood
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    You're good - it has to be said. But the better you are, the worse you are. You appear to me close to pure corruption, toxic in word to such a degree you must be in person as well. Btw, can you say Lejoy?
  • NOS4A2
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    You got me all wrong, Tim. And yes, I can say Lejoy.
  • Punshhh
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    How can there be mass voter fraud through postal votes if there are very few postboxes and those that there are, are not used. it doesn't make sense?


    The populists in the UK suffer from the same paranoia. They repeatedly claim that there is a risk of mass voter fraud through postal voting. But there has never been any evidence of it. They can't even explain who would become involved in it, why they would do it.
  • StreetlightX
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    Wait you think he knows any of them? Or just, like, the law in general?
  • NOS4A2
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    Someone hasn't heard of the 22nd Amendment.

    Someone hasn’t heard of a joke.
  • praxis
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    The Rolling Stone article also says that Trump claimed for the seventh times over the last several years that he received Michigan’s ‘Man of the Year’ award. Some jokes never get old, I guess.
  • Wayfarer
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    Mr. Manafort recognized the Kremlin’s interests, the report said. “This model can greatly benefit the Putin government if employed at the correct levels with the appropriate commitments to success,” he wrote in a memo to Mr. Deripaska.

    The report called Mr. Manafort’s efforts for the oligarch “in effect, influence work for the Russian government and its interests.”

    For over a decade, the work made Mr. Manafort fabulously wealthy. At lunch after Mr. Yanukovych was elected president [of Ukraine] in 2010, the report said, the new Ukrainian leader “snapped his fingers” and gave Mr. Manafort a jar of caviar worth $30,000 to $40,000.
  • NOS4A2
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    Trump pardoned Susan B Anthony on the 100th year anniversary of the 19th amendment.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53825403
  • tim wood
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    News!! I figured out who nos-4 is! He's Tucker Carlson's and Sean Hannity's love child!
  • Punshhh
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    Nice speech from Obama.
  • 180 Proof
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    T-minus 75 days. :mask:

    "I don't know much about the [QAnon conspiracy] movement other than I understand they like me very much, which I appreciate." ~DJT, Putin's Running Mate
  • Michael
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    "I don't know much about the [QAnon conspiracy] movement other than I understand they like me very much, which I appreciate."180 Proof

    I think the only things Trump cares about is people liking him and making money.
  • Michael
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    Steve Bannon charged with wire fraud and money laundering

    Yet another Trump campaign official arrested. He sure likes to surround himself with criminals.

    Oh, and also Judge throws out Trump challenge to Manhattan DA subpoena for tax records

    Marrero wrote that he could not “mechanically credit” the president’s new arguments, likening them to “absolute immunity through a back door.”

    Marrero dismissed the case with prejudice, effectively preventing the president from bringing new arguments to the court for why the subpoena should not be enforced.
  • praxis
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    I think the only things Trump cares about is people liking him and making money.Michael

    That can’t be true. He could be the most ridiculed man that’s ever lived. I think he only cares about attention and money/power.
  • StreetlightX
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    What's that? Trump is full of shit again?:

    "PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP’S campaign, ordered by a federal court judge in Pennsylvania to back up its claims of fraud in the state’s vote-by-mail system, has documented only a handful of cases of election fraud in recent years — none of which involved mail-in ballots. The revelation, which came in the form of a partially redacted 524-page document produced by the Trump campaign last week, undermines the claim by Trump team operatives that mail-in ballot fraud is a grave risk to Pennsylvania voters."

    https://theintercept.com/2020/08/20/trump-election-fraud-pennsylvania-court/
  • NOS4A2
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    A New Jersey judge invalidated a city council election and ordered a new one after allegations of voter fraud, according to a ruling issued Wednesday.

    The May 12 election for Paterson's Third Ward city council was "rife with mail in vote procedural violations," Judge Ernest Caposela said in his ruling, though he left the decision on whether there was voter fraud to the criminal courts.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/politics/paterson-new-jersey-city-council-voter-fraud/index.html

  • Wayfarer
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    A STATEMENT BY FORMER REPUBLICAN NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS

    https://www.defendingdemocracytogether.org/national-security/

    10 points about Trump’s incompetence and malfeasance, demonstrably true and illustrated on a daily basis by Trump’s behaviour, statements and demeanour.
  • Michael
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    No kidding:

    Trump Told Homeland Security To Take Its Orders From Lou Dobbs, Former Official Says

    President Donald Trump told officials from the Department of Homeland Security to get their marching orders by listening to Fox Business host Lou Dobbs “every night,” former DHS chief of staff Miles Taylor told Anderson Cooper on Friday.

    Dobbs, an effusive supporter of Trump, was basically the “shadow chief of staff” for the department, Taylor said in the CNN interview.

    “The president would call us and ... he would say, ‘Why the hell didn’t you watch Lou Dobbs last night? You need to listen to Lou. What Lou says is what I want to do,’” Taylor said.
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