• Brett
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    Well, enough of these pleasantries.
  • Kenosha Kid
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    Who said that?Brett

    Are you following the conversation you're involved in? Scroll up and, you know, read stuff.
  • Brett
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    Are you following the conversation you're involved in? Scroll up and, you know, read stuff.Kenosha Kid

    Well you can’t answer it because you don’t know. Some random post on Parler.

    The usual “rambling and raving”. I mean really, is this the sort of reference we use now on this site.
  • Benkei
    4k
    My personal take is that for Democrats it's probably best if they wouldn't impeach and leave this problem festering and dividing the Republican Party. For the GOP impeachment and conviction would be a godsend.

    That's the political calculus.
    Benkei

    Predictable I suppose. If anything, McConnel is a smart politician with a clear ethical view that the end justifies the means.
  • Kenosha Kid
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    The usual “rambling and raving”. I mean really, is this the sort of reference we use now on this site.Brett

    Yes, when discussing whether it's true that fascists plan coups on parler, what they post on parler is remarkably relevant. Especially when, you know, those coups actually happen, dismissing them as noise is dumb as hell. Thank god the FBI take it a little more seriously.
  • unenlightened
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    Well I guess it’s all over for the forum then if this is how the administrator behaves.Brett

    I guess it's all over for the US if this is how the president behaves.
  • Brett
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    So either this is true of Trump and Baden, or it’s not true of Trump and Baden? Which one?
  • unenlightened
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    [
    So either this is true of Trump and Baden, or it’s not true of Trump and Baden?Brett

    Yes. Which one?
  • Maw
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    Predictable I suppose. If anything, McConnel is a smart politician with a clear ethical view that the end justifies the means.Benkei

    There's been a lot of corporate backlash, the donor base isn't happy and McConnell can see where the wind is blowing
  • Rafaella Leon
    59
    The most beautiful thing is that nobody remembers that the cause of the riot in the Capitol in the first place was the biggest electoral fraud of all time, an obvious crime of high treason protected by the Senate and Big Tech. Everyone wants to give the impression that the cause of the violence was innocuous little words from Trump. Madness has become mandatory. Investigating electoral fraud was prohibited, reporting it was prohibited, and even speaking in any context was prohibited. That's what communist transparency is.
  • Kenosha Kid
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    The most beautiful thing is that nobody remembers that the cause of the riot in the Capitol in the first place was the biggest electoral fraud of all time, an obvious crime of high treason protected by the Senate and Big Tech. Everyone wants to give the impression that the cause of the violence was innocuous little words from Trump. Madness has become mandatory. Investigating electoral fraud was prohibited, reporting it was prohibited, and even speaking in any context was prohibited. That's what communist transparency is.Rafaella Leon

    Can't tell if sarcasm...
  • frank
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    I think Mcconnell sees the last four years as a success, what with all the judges and tax cuts.

    The most beautiful thing is that nobody remembers that the cause of the riot in the Capitol in the first place was the biggest electoral fraud of all time,Rafaella Leon

    Couldn't find any proof of that. At all.
  • baker
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    Couldn't find any proof of that. At all.frank
    Because the commies destroyed it, obviously, duh.
  • Michael
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    The most beautiful thing is that nobody remembers that the cause of the riot in the Capitol in the first place was the biggest electoral fraud of all time, an obvious crime of high treason protected by the Senate and Big Tech.Rafaella Leon

    There was no wide spread electoral fraud, and "high treason" isn't a thing under U.S. law. There's the crime of "treason", which is defined as "levying War against [the United States], or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort" which electoral fraud doesn't satisfy.
  • Tobias
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    The most beautiful thing is that nobody remembers that the cause of the riot in the Capitol in the first place was the biggest electoral fraud of all time, an obvious crime of high treason protected by the Senate and Big Tech.Rafaella Leon

    Fuck me, totally forgot about that one! Thanks Raf. Guys, have you been following that election fraud thingy? They are all in it, the judiciary, Republican governors, Even Hugo Chaves was raised from the dead to play his part! It must have slipped my mind...
  • ssu
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    15 000 of the National Guard to be deployed for the inauguration in DC. To get a perspective on the number, when Obama had his first inauguration there were 4 000 National Guardsmen deployed. With Trump's inauguration in 2017 the number was 7 800. So roughly now twice the number.

  • frank
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    Because the commies destroyed it, obviously, duh.baker

    The commies travelled back in time and changed the votes!
  • baker
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    You have to admit though, there is something grandiose about these claims of voting fraud.
  • jorndoe
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    @Brett, FYI, I wanted to see for myself, due to rumors on the street and FBI warnings across most US states. The backend hosts apparently shut Parler down because of messages like those posted, lots of them. Make of it what you will. :shrug:
    Personally, I'd be somewhat reluctant to just remove/ban it all, but that may just be me; other platforms do have means to force-tag posts, make it a bit slower to get to offensive posts, etc.

    As far as I can tell (I know some of those guys), there's a McCarthyist type fear-dread of their faith/culture going away, which easily turns to hate. Things like "commies" "socialism" "taxes" "Marxists" "leftard" "big government" "globalism" are special loaded/pejorative/trigger words here. So, anyway, this contributes to far-right moves for (some) Christians. Not that there are that many communists in the US as far as I know (Sanders certainly isn't one) — unless you ask those guys. Trump has become / is their guy (to an extent).

    Holy Hate: The Far Right’s Radicalization of Religion (Southern Poverty Law Center; Feb 10, 2018)
    The Rapture and the Real World: Mike Pompeo Blends Beliefs and Policy (The New York Times; Mar 30, 2019)
    Christian Nationalists Aim to Dismantle this Core Freedom (Religion Dispatches; Jan 15, 2020)
    Pompeo claims private property and religious freedom are 'foremost' human rights (The Guardian; Jul 16, 2020)
  • Rafaella Leon
    59
    Couldn't find any proof of that. At all.frank



    Below is a running, selective collection of hyperlinked articles detailing charges of ballot irregularities or electronic fraud being made in various states, especially key battlegrounds such as Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada and Pennsylvania.


    Arizona - FBI investigating voter data theft - Forbes

    Data expert: between 120,000 and 306,000 fake people cast ballots - NTD Television

    Maricopa GOP chairwoman: Trump votes credited to Biden - Capitol Times

    Anonymous: 35,000 illegal votes for Democratic candidates - Daily Signal


    Georgia - Trump campaign files suit seeking new statewide election - Reuters

    House Republicans seek mail-ballot process review before Jan. 5 runoff - Epoch Times

    Dekalb County can’t find chain of custody records for absentee ballots - Epoch Times

    Trump campaign: Video shows ballot-counting from suitcases after poll workers sent home - Townhall, Twitter

    Chief investigator: No 'mystery ballots' seen in security video - Washington Examiner

    Attorney L. Lin Wood: All 900 Fulton Co. military ballots for Biden - sdfish.com

    Wood: Video shows ballots shredded - Cobb County Courier

    Data analyst: 40,000 ballots illegally cast by people who had moved - NTD video

    Ex-gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams group investigated for seeking to “register “ineligible, out-of-state, or deceased voters” before Jan. 5 Senate runoffs - Fox News


    Michigan - Judge allows probe of Dominion machines in Antrim County - Fox News

    Four takeaways from the state Senate's vote fraud hearing - Daily Signal


    Nevada - Nevada GOP to appeal judge’s refusal to nullify Biden win - Associated Press

    Native American voter advocacy group “handed out gift cards, electronics, clothing” in tribal areas, and on Facebook some recipients documented the exchanges for votes while wearing Biden campaign gear - The Federalist

    Trump legal team: Audit finds 2 percent of ballots cast in the name of people who said they never received a ballot and 1 percent by those who said they never filled one out - PJ Media

    Mail ballots were sent to abandoned businesses - Public Interest Legal Foundation

    Trump representatives said more than 1,500 ballots may have been cast by dead voters and that 42,248 people voted “multiple times” - Washington Examiner

    Witness: Early voting tallies in Carson County were inexplicably changed on election night - Hearing transcript

    Whistleblower affidavit: Clark County supervisors accepted ballots despite concerns regarding required signatures - Washington Examiner


    Pennsylvania - Justice Samuel Alito moves up U.S. Supreme Court deadline in mail ballot case - Epoch Times

    Lawsuit: Up to 280,000 ballots ‘disappeared’ after postal contractor's trip from New York - Epoch Times

    Tens of thousands of ballots returned earlier than sent date, researcher says - Epoch Times

    Mail carrier says he was ordered to collect late ballots for backdating. - Washington Times

    Pittsburgh ballots sent to vacant lots - Public Interest Legal Foundation


    Rampant and unbridled voter fraud everywhere. Didn’t Joe Biden himself accidentally say they put together the greatest voter fraud in history during pre-election?

  • Kenosha Kid
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    Rampant and unbridled voter fraud everywhere. Didn’t Joe Biden himself accidentally say they put together the greatest voter fraud in history during pre-election?Rafaella Leon

    So basically "Trump said so." Investigating false allegations of voter fraud does not demonstrate voter fraud, especially when those investigations found that there had been no voter fraud.

    Great post. there's no way he can respond to that.
  • Benkei
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    I clicked the one you claimed was from the Washington Post, which wasn't.

    Theft of voter data is a breach of privacy, if it happened, but is no proof of voter fraud.

    Court cases need to be won before they count.

    Affidavits are generally worthless as are anonymous claims.

    So basically you have nothing.

    Meanwhile, your conspiracy theory requires most media outlets, judges, politicians, election officials, etc. to be in on it.

    So, basically you're peddling lies.
  • frank
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    Cool thanks. You must really be distraught over this.
  • tim wood
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    I looked at and read the first four references above. Four of four all bulls**t and no substance or even relevance. I accuse Rafaella of either not reading his references himself, or having read them but being unable to understand them, or just being a troll, which in the present environment is vicious. I call you out. Produce substance or retreat, retract, and go away.
  • frank
    6.2k
    QAnon, once fostered by Russians, is now planted in Russia.

    Karma's a bitch.
  • Rafaella Leon
    59
    So, basically you're peddling lies.Benkei

    So tell me how is it possible that the most admired man in America (according to a Gallup poll) had fewer votes than Joe Blow, who couldn't bring fifty people together at a rally?
  • NOS4A2
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    The President just got busted inciting peace and calm.

    In light of reports of more demonstrations, I urge that there must be NO violence, NO lawbreaking and NO vandalism of any kind. That is not what I stand for, and it is not what America stands for. I call on ALL Americans to help ease tensions and calm tempers. Thank You.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-from-the-president-011321/
  • Michael
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    So tell me how is it possible that the most admired man in America (according to a Gallup poll) had fewer votes than Joe Blow, who couldn't bring fifty people together at a rally?Rafaella Leon

    18% of Americans named Trump, 15% named Obama, 6% Biden and 3% Fauci.

    I think it’s likely that most of the 18% who named Obama or Fauci voted for Biden in the election, not Trump.
  • tim wood
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    So tell me how is it possible that the most admired man in America (according to a Gallup poll) had fewer votes than Joe Blow, who couldn't bring fifty people together at a rally?Rafaella Leon

    He got 18% of the "vote" according to reports. 82%, in other words, preferred somebody else. As to rallies, they don't count as votes. E.g. I never went to a Biden rally, but I voted for him. So, if you're doing the best you can, take a rest and learn. Or if not, then stop being stupid.
  • NOS4A2
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    These are things they cannot explain. They can only explain it away.
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