• Yasuhiro Matsue
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    Hello from Japan.
    I'm strongly interested in philosophy of well-being.
    I'm a hedonist, trying to sophisticate this oversimplified view.
    I hope I can make friends with people with similar interests.
  • ArguingWAristotleTiff
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    On Stoicism
    I am not saying what is a proper response. That is your problem given only to you as it is given to me as my problem. We all have these peculiar assignments, given to each of us. Our attempts to sort these elements out either lead to some kind of policy for ourselves or not.

    The courage part is accepting those conditions and not waiting for better ones.
    Valentinus
    @Valentinus Impressive reply.
    Welcome to The Philosophy Forum~
    Enjoy your stay ~
  • Valentinus
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    Thank you for the warm welcome.
  • leo
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    "Marx said, “The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."
    — Bitter Crank

    ...and that was in 1848. So where's the change? We can't change the world. Only the few people (the "1%") who own it can change it. Of course now they're in the process of speeding up their change a bit.
    Michael Ossipoff

    What if then, the point of philosophy, was to devise a way to change it?
  • Michael Ossipoff
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    "Marx said, “The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."
    — Bitter Crank

    " ...and that was in 1848. So where's the change? We can't change the world. Only the few people (the "1%") who own it can change it. Of course now they're in the process of speeding up their change a bit. "— Michael Ossipoff



    What if then, the point of philosophy, was to devise a way to change it?
    leo

    What if there isn't a way to change it? I suggest that there isn't a way to change it.

    But this is only one life in one of infinitely-many possibility-worlds.

    What can we do then? Live out our lives as quietly and peacefully as possible while we're here, and be beneficial to others in some ways, to the extent feasible.

    Life is for play ("Lila")

    Michael Ossipoff
  • leo
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    What if there isn't a way to change it? I suggest that there isn't a way to change it.Michael Ossipoff

    But what if there is a way to change it, and that to find it we first have to believe there is?
  • Michael Ossipoff
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    But what if there is a way to change it, and that to find it we first have to believe there is?leo

    People have believed in it for a long time, and what has all that belief and effort culminated in?

    Michael Ossipoff
  • leo
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    People have believed in it for a long time, and what has all that belief and effort culminated in?Michael Ossipoff

    It's easy to get discouraged when most people believe we can't change the world, and because of all the resistance you are faced with when you attempt to change it. But I believe that people are waking up more and more, and that thanks to the internet we can spread that belief to others and make it become a reality. It won't be easy, but I truly believe in a profound way that we can change it.
  • ArguingWAristotleTiff
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    @leo Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
    We are glad you are here~
  • ArguingWAristotleTiff
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    @VMF
    Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
    Love your nickname!
  • Michael Ossipoff
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    Maybe, but those things have been said for a very long time, and look where all that effort has culminated.

    Michael Ossipoff
  • Scribble
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    I want to change my name on the forum. How can i delete my account so I can create a new one with the same email address?
  • VagabondSpectre
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    PM a moderator and they may change it for you. (a one-time deal, so choose wisely)

    Welcome to the forum!
  • fdrake
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    Considering you've just made one post, you could probably ask to be deleted then make a new account. Summoning admins to see if this is possible @Baden @jamalrob
  • Baden
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    You can just PM me your preferred name and I'll change it.
  • S
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    Those remarks were meant to be ironic, right? There have been colossal changes since Marx made that comment in 1848. There have been multiple successful revolutions inspired by Marx. Marx has almost without a doubt been one of the biggest influences in 20th century politics. There were successful revolutions in Russia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, there was the Vietnam War, the Cold War... Those changes weren't brought about by the 1%. These are strong real-world examples of what people are capable of. It's quite absurd to say that change isn't possible. Remember that capitalism is a very modern phenomenon and hasn't been around for anywhere near as long as political systems of the past. Ask yourself, how many of those political systems were eventually overthrown? Where is Feudalism now? Where are all of the absolute monarchies?

    If history is anything to go by, there will likely be big changes ahead.
  • Michael Ossipoff
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    “Marx said, “The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it." “— Bitter Crank
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    “...and that was in 1848. So where's the change? We can't change the world. Only the few people (the "1%") who own it can change it. Of course now they're in the process of speeding up their change a bit.”
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    Those remarks were meant to be ironic, right?
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    No.
    Irony? There’s plenty of that in topics like this, but don’t get me started. :D
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    There have been colossal changes since Marx made that comment in 1848.
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    Yes science has bettered our lives in some ways. Explain that to the victims. As I said, after those colossal changes, where are we now? A runaway dystopia that’s rapidly getting worse.
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    There have been multiple successful revolutions inspired by Marx. Marx has almost without a doubt been one of the biggest influences in 20th century politics.
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    I didn’t say anything critical or disparaging about Marx. I don’t blame Marx for the current state of the societal world.
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    There were successful revolutions in Russia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, there was the Vietnam War, the Cold War...
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    The Cold War and the Vietnam war are hardly examples that show our societal world to be a good one.
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    Of course the same can be said for current events.
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    Those changes weren't brought about by the 1%. These are strong real-world examples of what people are capable of.
    I’m not saying that the road has been completely unidirectional all the time, or that the 1% (more like .01% or less) who rule are responsible for every detail of what happens. They just own the eventual results.
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    It's quite absurd to say that change isn't possible.
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    Allow me to quote from the movie “Red Riding-Hood”, in which Father Solomon said:
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    “With no disrespect, you have no idea what you’re dealing with.”
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    Today’s technology makes it a whole ‘nother ball-game.
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    Remember that capitalism is a very modern phenomenon and hasn't been around for anywhere near as long as political systems of the past. Ask yourself, how many of those political systems were eventually overthrown? Where is Feudalism now? Where are all of the absolute monarchies?
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    At first the justification was that the ruler claimed to be divine. Then it was just that he and his were just better. Thien, as science and technology advanced, the story had to keep changing. Different stories, same scam.
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    If history is anything to go by, there will likely be big changes ahead.
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    That’s right. And those changes are rapidly happening, and have recently been accelerating hard.

    My advice was good advice:
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    So, what can we do? Stay out of the rulers' way, and quietly live out our lives as well and as safely as possible.

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    A famous person once said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's".
    Michael Ossipoff
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