Where is the parent/child relationship located after childbirth? — creativesoul
If I draw an association between a bell and food, and I grant your argument, then it only follows that the bell, the food, and the association between the two are located in my head. — creativesoul
...there remains a distinction between mere signalling, no matter how sophisticated, and symbolic language...
That doesn't stop us from knowing stuff about pre or nonlinguistic thought/belief(human). — creativesoul
Curious then, do you hold that all knowledge is JTB? — creativesoul
WikipediaNumber sense in animals is the ability of creatures to represent and discriminate quantities of relative sizes by number sense. It has been observed in various species, from fish to primates.
I disagree that the bell is part of what the association is about for the exact same reason that the association is not about any of the other elemental constituents. — creativesoul
What does a mental association between a bell and food consist of on your view? — creativesoul
How would you know whether someone can count without language? — Wayfarer
Perhaps language evolved out of our sense of sense of size, our ability to convert quantity into meaningful expression vs instinct. Language is largely reducible to computation, as translation programs demonstrate. — Cavacava
f a bird sees two people go into the brush and sees one exit but continues to wait for the other to exit before it enters the brush, it has successfully counted. — Hanover
No, I don't agree with that, for the reasons given by John Searle
then at some level it suggests that language, as a system of symbols, is reducible to simple computational symbols (I believe Chomsky holds this position), and perhaps our semantic ability developed out of some very basic inherent computation abilities. — Cavacava
I disagree that the bell is part of what the association is about for the exact same reason that the association is not about any of the other elemental constituents.
I don't understand that sentence. What's "the reason that the association is not about any of the other elemental constituents"?
We first identify what human thought/belief consists in/of. We then separate the elements not existentially contingent upon language from the ones that are. If the elements of thought/belief not existentially contingent upon language are - in and of themselves - sufficient for thought/belief, then we have the strongest possible ground for positing the core of all human thought/belief. — creativesoul
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