To be honest with you... I wish one day I end up dying as Mishima (三島 由紀夫). His death and suicide was perfect and aesthetic. I don't know how to express myself but I have the same thought and feeling like him

Again, propaganda. Don't follow the movement. Follow your own moves. — Hillary

I do, but I don't have my own personal origin of the universe hypothesis, So I happily, look to the experts.

I KNOW
— universeness

Finally the universeness has seen the light! You're promoted to real universe! :lol: — Hillary

Your playing again! :naughty:

I think that the movement now is towards the idea that particles don't exist at all and its all about fields and field fluctuations/disturbances/excitations/perturbations etc — universeness

There are no "disturbances" or "perturbations" of fields. Only fluctuations or excitations. Fluctuations are virtual particles and excitations are real particles. Perturbations are used in calculating cross sections or scattering amplitudes. For bound states like protons, the perturbation approach can't be used. Discrete spacetime calculations in QCD are involved (Monte Carlo....). Took days, for a computer, to compute the spin of a proton!

Many worlds just don't exist. So how can you assign them a credence level? — Hillary

By applying what I consider rational thought. The same reason why I have such a low credence level for the god posit, which you know fine well so you are just repeating the same music. A different dance may result in new insight. The same old dance just gives everyone tired feet which are getting older and older every time the same ground is pointlessly covered.

Your playing again! — universeness

You accuse again of playing! The usual approach. Everything you don't like is considered play. But Im serious. Now call this play again! :lol:

I don't force you to dance! I just say you believe things just like theists. And even in the scientific realm!

It's easy: they seem to know what they talk about. They role play. That's why you are fooled by them... :grin: — Hillary

Not entirely out of the realm of possibility; in fact it's likelihood is > 50% and that's a conservative estimate vis-à-vis my abilities to recognize experts/authorities.

By applying what I consider rational thought — universeness

But many worlds are an irrational thought, a believe... But you're free to think it! Don't get me wrong. If it gives you solace. The many worlds are just worlds, gods, of the gaps. Totally unnecessary if you know the truth.

Not entirely out of the realm of possibility; in fact it's likelihood is > 50% and that's a conservative estimate vis-à-vis my abilities to recognize experts/authorities. — Agent Smith

I can sniff so-called experts and authority from a mile! They have a distinct smell. Instinct distinct.

I can sniff so-called experts and authority from a mile! They have a distinct smell. Instinct distinct. — Hillary

Ok, you have some skill!

But many worlds are an irrational though, a believe... But you're free to think it! Don't get me wrong — Hillary

The multiverse is not a belief, it's a proposal based on projection of what we know, or think we know and in my opinion, it is much more viable than your personal polytheistic beliefs as a way of progressing towards the true facts about of the origin of the Universe we exist in. That does not mean you do not have the right to your beliefs in polytheism. I also have the right to completely disagree with them.
We hold positions on atheism/theism which I think are unlikely to move one plank length in the foreseeable future.

"I've got the bullets!"

The multiverse is not a belief — universeness

Believe me, brother Uni, it's a belief based on ignorance.

Why you write universe with capital u?

Why you write universe with capital u? — Hillary

Same reason I don't with god......significance!

The multiverse is not a belief, it's a proposal based on projection of what we know, or think we know and in my opinion, it is much more viable than your personal polytheistic beliefs — universeness

My believes in gods don't need proof, the many worlds do. I accept the burden of proof in science but not in gods affairs.

As I thought. So you reason just the same as theists but with a different belief.

The multiverse is not a belief, it's a proposal based on projection of what we know, or think we know — universeness

Which is, on ignorance. It's invented for the unitarity problem in QM.

As I thought. So you reason just the same as theists but with a different belief — Hillary

No, I don't associate the term belief with science in any rigorous manner.
I might use it in a sentence such as 'I believe science has the necessary tools and methodologies to.....

Which is, on ignorance. — Hillary

Is that your emotive or venerated opinion?

Is that your emotive or venerated opinion? — universeness

It's the truth. They are used to explain happenings in the observable universe, such as non-unitary collapse of the wavefunction and the measurement problem.

No, I don't associate the term belief with science in any rigorous manner. — universeness

But you believe there are many worlds outside ours. I believe in only one heaven!

Welcome to the Epicurean Philosophy were Happiness is the only thing one can own!

But you believe there are many worlds outside ours. — Hillary

Did you not BELIEVE me when I already stated that I don't believe in the many-worlds theory, I assign it a credence level.

You are serious? Even with caoital M: Multiverse...What's the evidence of a multiverse? There are simpler explanations for QM. Occam's shaving gel tells us to shave of the superfluous fantasies. — Hillary

lol mr Hillary is asking evidence for a claim......the irony!

Did you not BELIEVE me when I already stated that I don't believe in the many-worlds theory, I assign it a credence level. — universeness

That's what you believe. Assigning credence level to non-existent worlds is a confession of ignorance.

Welcome to the Epicurean Philosophy — Nickolasgaspar

All hail Epicurus!

lol mr Hillary is asking evidence for a claim......the irony! — Nickolasgaspar

In science, evidence is very important.

That's what you believe. Assigning credence level to non-existent worlds is a confession of ignorance — Hillary

Its acceptance of the fact that I don't know for sure but I think your 'ignorance' word is too emotive and it has nothing at all to do with belief in the sense of faith.