Does causality exist?
  • Yohan
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    The front of a comic book doesn't cause the end of the comic book.
    The writer of the comic book may have come up with the whole plot all at once, or came up with the ending first and gradually worked their way to the beginning.
    Only it was drawn, probably, from start to finish, and is flipped that way.
    There doesn't seem to be a reason to think that the beginning causes the end, any more than there is a reason to think the end causes the beginning.
    Ideas start as a general flash, and then the details are gradually fleshed out.

    Without causation there is no creation either. Creation means consciousness causing.
    So, we do not live in a deterministic world, nor do we exist in a world created by consciousness.

    There is just us, uncaused and uncreated.

    Just a stream of consciousness inspired by various things I've read. I don't hold it as the true position, but as an experimental hypothesis.
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  • Yohan
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    PS.
    I meant to say 'flip book'
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  • Prishon
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    The front of a comic book doesn't cause the end of the comic book — Yohan

    That depends. If it's on fire than it's probably the end. The fire causing it though.
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  • Prishon
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    . I don't hold it as the true position, but as an experimental hypothesis. — Yohan

    :ok:
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  • Yohan
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    That depends. If it's on fire than it's probably the end. The fire causing it though — Prishon
    Can't argue with fire.
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  • Prishon
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    Many books are written backwards. Effect proceeding the cause.
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  • Prishon
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    By the way, the very strange tachyons move back in time. They are thought to exist when the endstage of the universe causes a new big bang.
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  • Yohan
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    del
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  • Prishon
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    ↪Yohan


    Del?
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  • Corvus
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    ↪Yohan
    According to Hume, causality doesn't exist. There is no impression of causality in the external world. But we form the idea of causality by habit of looking at events happening one after the other.
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  • Corvus
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    Many books are written backwards. Effect proceeding the cause. — Prishon

    :up: :100:

    I write notebooks starting from the last page, and ending at the front.
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  • Prishon
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    I write notebooks starting from the last page, and ending at the front. — Corvus

    Not for being nosey but just out of curiosity: what are the notes about? Which makes that you start at the end? ☺
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  • Corvus
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    Not for being nosey but just out of curiosity: what are the notes about? Which makes that you start at the end? ☺ — Prishon

    No probs. :) I scribble some of my thoughts from readings on the notebooks. ^0^
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  • Pantagruel
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    "Teleology is only mechanism turned upside down"

    Collingwood's description of Bergson's metaphysics of creative evolution.
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  • TheMadFool
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    The letter combination "th" is the most common two-letter (each distinct from the other) pairing to appear in the English language. Does this mean that "t" causes "h"?
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  • Corvus
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    The letter combination "th" is the most common two-letter (each distinct from the other) pairing to appear in the English language. Does this mean that "t" causes "h"? — TheMadFool

    If there are exceptions and irregularities, then causal relations cannot be formed.
    It must be constant occurrences.
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  • TheMadFool
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    If there are exceptions and irregularities, then causal relations cannot be formed.
    It must be constant occurrences.     — Corvus

    Therein lies the rub.
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  • Corvus
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    Therein lies the rub. — TheMadFool
    Ay, there's the rub.
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  • Prishon
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    ↪TheMadFool

    Both t and h have a common cuase. The th pattern in the inner world. The world of ideas.
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  • Prishon
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    ↪Pantagruel


    Teleology makes ideas the cause of things happening indeed. Its not the whole view though.
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  • Manuel
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    I think it does, but we cannot prove it beyond doubt. This was actually Hume's position, which is sometimes interpreted as him saying that we don't know anything about causal powers. He said constant conjunction is the best we can grasp about causality, but we can't prove this. There may be more to causality that constant conjunction, but we are in ignorance as to what these extra steps involve.
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  • Corvus
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    All we can be sure about causality is that, it is a product of human mind, powered by imagination and intuition and reason.
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  • TheMadFool
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    Therein lies the rub.
    — TheMadFool
    Ay, there's the rub.     — Corvus

    The problem of induction!

    Both t and h have a common cuase. The th pattern in the inner world. The world of ideas. — Prishon

    The world of sounds, you mean.
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  • Prishon
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    The world of sounds, you mean. — TheMadFool

    Sounds ARE ideas.
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  • TheMadFool
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    Sounds ARE ideas. — Prishon



    What's the idea in the sound of pots and pans banging?
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  • Prishon
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    What's the idea in the sound of pots and pans banging? — TheMadFool

    Just LISTEN to tbem and you'll realize.
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  • TheMadFool
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    Just LISTEN to tbem and you'll realize. — Prishon

    Sorry, I'm not in the mood for games. G'day.
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  • Prishon
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    Sorry, I'm not in the mood for games. G'day. — TheMadFool

    Hey! YOU started the game...
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  • Yohan
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    Del? — Prishon
    Eated
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  • Prishon
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    Del?
    — Prishon
    Eated     — Yohan



    You mean you ate it?
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  • Yohan
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    You mean you ate it? — Prishon
    It was delated for another time
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