Does causality exist?

Yohan

The front of a comic book doesn't cause the end of the comic book.
The writer of the comic book may have come up with the whole plot all at once, or came up with the ending first and gradually worked their way to the beginning.
Only it was drawn, probably, from start to finish, and is flipped that way.
There doesn't seem to be a reason to think that the beginning causes the end, any more than there is a reason to think the end causes the beginning.
Ideas start as a general flash, and then the details are gradually fleshed out.

Without causation there is no creation either. Creation means consciousness causing.
So, we do not live in a deterministic world, nor do we exist in a world created by consciousness.

There is just us, uncaused and uncreated.

Just a stream of consciousness inspired by various things I've read. I don't hold it as the true position, but as an experimental hypothesis.

Yohan

PS.
I meant to say 'flip book'

Prishon

The front of a comic book doesn't cause the end of the comic book — Yohan

That depends. If it's on fire than it's probably the end. The fire causing it though.

Prishon

. I don't hold it as the true position, but as an experimental hypothesis. — Yohan

:ok:

Yohan

That depends. If it's on fire than it's probably the end. The fire causing it though — Prishon

Can't argue with fire.

Prishon

Many books are written backwards. Effect proceeding the cause.

Prishon

By the way, the very strange tachyons move back in time. They are thought to exist when the endstage of the universe causes a new big bang.

Yohan

del

Prishon

↪Yohan

Del?

Corvus

↪Yohan

According to Hume, causality doesn't exist. There is no impression of causality in the external world. But we form the idea of causality by habit of looking at events happening one after the other.

Corvus

Many books are written backwards. Effect proceeding the cause. — Prishon

:up: :100:

I write notebooks starting from the last page, and ending at the front.

Prishon

I write notebooks starting from the last page, and ending at the front. — Corvus

Not for being nosey but just out of curiosity: what are the notes about? Which makes that you start at the end? ☺

Corvus

Not for being nosey but just out of curiosity: what are the notes about? Which makes that you start at the end? ☺ — Prishon

No probs. :) I scribble some of my thoughts from readings on the notebooks. ^0^

Pantagruel

"Teleology is only mechanism turned upside down"

Collingwood's description of Bergson's metaphysics of creative evolution.

TheMadFool

The letter combination "th" is the most common two-letter (each distinct from the other) pairing to appear in the English language. Does this mean that "t" causes "h"?

Corvus

The letter combination "th" is the most common two-letter (each distinct from the other) pairing to appear in the English language. Does this mean that "t" causes "h"? — TheMadFool

If there are exceptions and irregularities, then causal relations cannot be formed.
It must be constant occurrences.

TheMadFool

If there are exceptions and irregularities, then causal relations cannot be formed.
It must be constant occurrences. — Corvus

Therein lies the rub.

Corvus

Therein lies the rub. — TheMadFool

Ay, there's the rub.

Prishon

↪TheMadFool

Both t and h have a common cuase. The th pattern in the inner world. The world of ideas.

Prishon

↪Pantagruel

Teleology makes ideas the cause of things happening indeed. Its not the whole view though.

Manuel

I think it does, but we cannot prove it beyond doubt. This was actually Hume's position, which is sometimes interpreted as him saying that we don't know anything about causal powers. He said constant conjunction is the best we can grasp about causality, but we can't prove this. There may be more to causality that constant conjunction, but we are in ignorance as to what these extra steps involve.

Corvus

All we can be sure about causality is that, it is a product of human mind, powered by imagination and intuition and reason.

TheMadFool

Therein lies the rub.
— TheMadFool
Ay, there's the rub. — Corvus

The problem of induction!

Both t and h have a common cuase. The th pattern in the inner world. The world of ideas. — Prishon

The world of sounds, you mean.

Prishon

The world of sounds, you mean. — TheMadFool

Sounds ARE ideas.

TheMadFool

Sounds ARE ideas. — Prishon

What's the idea in the sound of pots and pans banging?

Prishon

What's the idea in the sound of pots and pans banging? — TheMadFool

Just LISTEN to tbem and you'll realize.

TheMadFool

Just LISTEN to tbem and you'll realize. — Prishon

Sorry, I'm not in the mood for games. G'day.

Prishon

Sorry, I'm not in the mood for games. G'day. — TheMadFool

Hey! YOU started the game...

Yohan

Del? — Prishon

Eated

Prishon

Del?
— Prishon
Eated — Yohan

You mean you ate it?

Yohan

You mean you ate it? — Prishon

It was delated for another time

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