For example ... I never even knew what ejaculation was until I was 12, when I accidentally found out and got scared >:O and then researched online to see what the hell had actually happened! Then I tried to do it again and make it happen out of curiosity. Then I started to research and investigate these matters, and then got into pornography etc. — Agustino
Heh, even 2000s internet was good! 2017 is more about social media than research and so forth. Back then the internet was quite solitary from what I remember. As in, you'd read and research stuff but that's about it. Few of the communication features were there - they started to appear around 2004/5. Even games, at least for me, were hard to find (and expensive), I had to go to PC cafes to play. Nowadays, almost no one goes to PC cafes - which is quite sad, they were good places for socialising.had access to the 2017 internet — Bitter Crank
no one goes to PC cafes — Agustino
Yeah but PC cafes were different, because it was literarily computer next to computer, and everyone talked with everyone, they played multiplayer games one against each other, and so forth - it gathered people who were interested to do the same things. Nowadays they go sit in a coffee place like Starbucks or whatever with a laptop and surf the net - but you see the place is set up in order to keep them isolated (they are only connected via social media), it's hard to approach someone in that environment with separate tables, and so forth. People sitting with a laptop certainly look like they don't want to be disturbed - as in they want to be amongst people, and yet be far from them too.I see all sorts of people sitting in coffee shops with a screen in front of them, but they don't socialize. It strikes me as dysfunctional. It's a way of being "less alone" I suppose. — Bitter Crank
So, you're OK with bestiality then? — John
Do you intend to communicate by typing on a keyboard? If you do, then why do you intend to communicate? Because you think this is good. — Agustino
You don't OBSERVE right and wrong, you judge things to be right and wrong. You observe facts - for example the color of leaves of the tree out your window. — Agustino
My judgement tells me. — Agustino
Actually no, because the faculty of judgement =/ reason in the way I've been using it. Reason is the way we function - we do things for certain reasons. That's what rationality is - a creature is rational if it holds reasons for doing X and Y. — Agustino
Yep, we judge it to be wrong. But this isn't to say our judgements can be objective. — Agustino
If I judge it to be wrong, I clearly am not using reason to do it. — Agustino
Differences in judgement are not differences of reason. — Agustino
Desire is innate and is not a choice, nor can it be eradicated — Emptyheady
at best suppressed with some nasty unforeseen side effects. — Emptyheady
This is why I think Buddhism is fundamentally mistaken and numbing yourself leads to alienation. — Emptyheady
I believe in two personal virtues, ambition and discipline.
Hume was on the right track when he said: "Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions, and can never pretend to any other office than to serve and obey them." — Emptyheady
Pinker — Emptyheady
People sitting with a laptop certainly look like they don't want to be disturbed - as in they want to be amongst people, and yet be far from them too. — Agustino
but you see the place is set up in order to keep them isolated — Agustino
dafuq? — Heister Eggcart
Fucking bitches"...a bitch is a female canine, no? :s — John
What my readings in philosophy have taught me, meaning where I'm coming from, is that unfulfilled wants and desires cause suffering and anguish, which in turn lead to other undesirable emotions. I don't think there's much controversy over that.
As a constantly aspiring Stoic, I feel compelled to listen to my brethren Christians and not indulge in the pleasurable aspects of life. Please understand that I have nothing against people who indulge in pleasures and such matters. However, I hold people who can master their desires and wants in higher regard to those who do not... and the history of philosophy and religion would stand with me in that value of self-mastery. — Question
Having said that, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. If you find celibacy works for you, then it works, and no amount of psychological theorizing can make it wrong. — Baden
Unfulfilled wants and desires cause suffering.
I feel compelled to not indulge in the pleasurable aspects of life.
Therefore I suffer. — unenlightened
The proof of the pudding is that there is something wrong; one does not need to theorise, merely read the 19 pages of anguish, aggression, fear, ignorance, and naked suffering already presented. — unenlightened
↪unenlightened And guess what, unenlightened is against what he terms "patrilineal societies" and for "matriarchal societies" - as if matriarchal societies weren't equally constructs. The facts are that nobility, kingship, etc. are values - at least for some. And as I have said, this conflict will be never-ending as the two sides cannot live together. All that is left for us to do, is for all of us to head in the political arena and fight. — Agustino
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