Masks have been a political issue from the moment governments started mandating them instead of recommending them, Just to put things in perspective. — Derukugi

They also mandate seatbelts. That's not political. So why is it with masks?

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They also mandate seatbelts. That's not political. So why is it with masks?

I suppose that it's about whether the government even has the right to force us to wear masks. I'm not opposed to wearing masks in public. I'm opposed to the prevalent mentality that the government needs to treat us like babies who don't know what to do without them. I want to live in a society where we have more confidence in ourselves and take on more responsibility as opposed to usually looking to those in power for answers and solutions.

FOX Noise: fu45 to Bob Woodward, 2.7.20

https://youtu.be/5Z8nV10dFcw

The current state of the United States shows that they can’t be trusted to take responsibility. People aren’t wearing masks and are gathering in large groups and infections and deaths are very high. The government has a duty to get involved. That’s why there are rules about seat belts and littering and employment and any number of other things. Why so many people think wearing masks during a pandemic is so problematic is beyond me. Y’all crazy.

It's OK not to warn people about a deadly pandemic and let hundreds of thousands of them die. Because you're just maintaining calm. What could be calmer than a dead person?

What could be calmer than dead person? — Baden

191,000 dead people.

But it's OK, it's Trump. He's allowed be a racist, piss on the troops, and kill Americans. At least he's not Ant!Fa :monkey: :death:

Imagine being the type of low-life Scum who defends this guy.

But it's OK, it's Trump. He's allowed be a racist, piss on the troops, and kill Americans. — Baden

... but Hillary's e-mails! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShTJ90fC34

:lol:

But everyone forgot bEnGaZzi!!!

... Anyway, whatever, two more months of this crap then it's over.

Anyway, whatever, two more months of this crap then it's over. — Baden

You're more optimistic than I am.

I already put money on it.

The very few times I bet I bet against what I want. That way I win regardless.

I just like free money. And Trump is way overpriced due to his supporters thinking he has magical powers.

It's voter suppression and other election frauds that I'm concerned about. Shutting down polling stations, falsely removed registrations, Russian hacking, USPS cuts and probably maladministration...

It's a few thousand votes in the swing states that will decide the election, not popular support.

I remember reading this four years ago: How To Win The Presidency With 23 Percent Of The Popular Vote

True story from 2016...

A friend of mine who was a hardcore Bernie Bro and spent hours on end campaigning exclusively against Hillary (mostly in Florida - where he lives - and Michigan - his home state) directed at his democrat friends. Not once did he have anything to say against Trump, but anyway...

He claimed it didn't matter as Hillary was gonna win and he was 100% certain. I wasn't certain at all, so we made a bet.

If Hillary won I'd send him $500 (I kind knew what was gonna happen, but anyway...) and if Trump won he was to donate $500 to Donald Trump's Make America Great Again campaign in his name and post it with all the mailings he received thanking him for his contribution in all social media.

Funny thing is this time around he seems to be a ghost in social media. I wonder why? ;)

But everyone forgot bEnGaZzi!!! — Baden

If you don't have really bad scandals, then make something out of a minor issue. It all goes along with the normal way how campaigns are done in the US. And anyway, with Q-anons and Pizzagates, no reason to stick to reality, there is a crowd for that too.

In the end people will just reject politics in general even more. And which party would care about the people who don't vote?

Woodward book: Trump says he knew coronavirus was ‘deadly’ and worse than the flu while intentionally misleading Americans — Michael

At the risk of being accused of TDS... I think that this is a not good thing.

The government has a duty to get involved. — Michael

"The government" is just a group of people. They don't have the physical ability to force everyone to wear masks even if they wanted to. This is why I believe more emphasis needs to be placed on taking on personal responsibility as opposed to just having faith that those in power will do the right thing.

Only in a very specific situation, and they don,t muzzle your face.

Woodward book: Trump says he knew coronavirus was ‘deadly’ and worse than the flu while intentionally misleading Americans
— Michael

At the risk of being accused of TDS... I think that this is a not good thing.

And at the risk of being called a Trumpet, I would like to point out that he added he does not want to create a panic. The toilet paper runs were bad enough as they were.
Which is absolutely reasonable. If had created a panic, the media would bash hin for that. Orangemanband if you do, orangemanbad if you don´t.

Well, Trumpet. You could downplay the risk to avoid a panic AND take action to avoid the worst. The problem is he recognised the danger and didn't do anything.

Well, thank goodness we avoided panic because that might have killed zero people whereas COVID only killed 200,000!

And at the risk of being called a Trumpet, I would like to point out that he added he does not want to create a panic. — Derukugi

In the stock market.

Trump has no problem scaring people about imaginary caravans carrying strong men who are up to no good and diseases like he did in 2018. Oddly enough we have them now in 2020 but they're not coming from Mexico and alot of them are carrying MAGA flags .

The toilet paper runs were bad enough as they were. — Derukugi

Oh well that justifies the 200K now dead then.

If had created a panic, the media would bash hin for that. Orangemanband if you do, orangemanbad if you don´t. — Derukugi

Nice to know that Mr. Macho Alpha Male is so scared of what people may say about him that he'd let 200K people die like that. Real sign of a good leader.

More peace in the Middle East. A bunch of know-nothing, inexperienced rubes did more to secure peace in a few years than decades of smooth-talking intellectuals.

Bahrain has become the latest Arab nation to agree to normalize ties with Israel as part of a broader diplomatic push by President Donald Trump and his administration to fully integrate the Jewish state into the Middle East.

Trump announced the agreement on Friday, following a three-way phone call he had with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Bahrain’s King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa. The three leaders also issued a brief six-paragraph joint statement, attesting to the deal.

Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner noted that the agreement is the second Israel has reached with an Arab country in 30 days after having made peace with only two Arab nations — Egypt and Jordan — in 72 years of its independence.

https://apnews.com/e21e371f1b406b209f93df5973d1fa46

Bahrain is another country that wasn't in conflict with Israel. I don't know who you expect to swallow the idea that this means anything whatsoever. You don't secure peace when there's already peace. It's just pure wallpaper for the uninformed.

Arent those pretty much symbolic?

Make Israel Great Again. That's what Trump was elected to do. Who cares about all the harm he's causing to America, right?