What next from the Democrat Dancing Troupe, self immolation? Whatever it is it’s going to have to be very big, a real spectacle.

Sacked Vindman's brother too. Not that Vindman's brother did anything wrong. But facts don't matter. Only loyalty.

The poor demented old fogey.

Here's the highlights of your link:

13% trust the media "a great deal," and 28% "a fair amount"
69% of Democrats, 15% of Republicans, 36% of independents trust media.

Conservatives have been bashing media for years, and THAT propaganda has been effective for them, within their clique.

A healthy skepticism of reporting is a good thing, but it becomes irrational when it's used as an excuse to dismiss the inconvenient news that exposes things you don't like. Trump has exacerbated this to the extreme, labelling all negative reporting as "fake". Many of his lemming followers emulate this. In a sense, this has been a brilliant propoganda tool for Trump, but it means they're being played in the worst way.

Sacked Vindman's brother too. Not that Vindman's brother did anything wrong. But facts don't matter. Only loyalty. — Wayfarer

Remember when Trump said Comey lied about Trump asking for his personal loyalty? Since then, Trump has repeatedly demonstrated how right Comey was.

In 2017 there was a sharp 21 point rise in Democratic confidence in the media. That’s quite the drastic change, especially after a long period of decline, so the self-aggrandizing of the media’s must have been an effective propaganda tool. I wonder if the new found credulity had anything to do with it’s opposition to Trump?

It is by now routine for mass media defenders, especially the media themselves, to tell us that we dismiss news that exposes things we do not like. That must be projection, because, according to the Knight Foundation, when asked in their own words why they distrust the media “Americans’ responses largely center on matters of accuracy or bias”.

Try the ones in the middle:

Let the tweet wars begin.

Oooh yes...

Let's go through Trumps tweets and comment on those tweets and then comment on the comment tweets and...



Nice map, actually!

In 2017 there was a sharp 21 point rise in Democratic confidence in the media. That’s quite the drastic change, especially after a long period of decline, so the self-aggrandizing of the media’s must have been an effective propaganda tool. I wonder if the new found credulity had anything to do with it’s opposition to Trump? — NOS4A2

Trump's use of the Stalinist epithet, "enemy of the people" to describe the media is undeniably polarizing - so to whatever degree there is increased irrational credulity on the left, it's a product of Trump's rhetoric. Nevertheless, who's being more irrationally incredulous: those who refuse to see or acknowledge Trump's daily litany of untruths, or those who call him out?

Shocking news: Fox endorses Mayor Pete!

Considering some of the OPs moved to the lounge I don’t understand why this is still here.

Edit: but I think I understand. If it’s not seen here others will start a new one. Still what’s the point?

How convenient you do not remember Vindman reading directly from his performance review giving testimony to the House. You really are fucking vicious and a tool. We have our own KellyAnne Conway here on TPF: nos4! Must give you goosebumps of pride to be such a traitor to truth.

traitor to truth — tim wood

Less a traitor to truth than the dupe of a potent simulacrum. Lazy-hearted fucks are often duped by a heartless strongarm. Their sickness of heart is mirrored in the potentate they choose to glorify and the simulacrum they choose to inhabit.





(Simulacrum a la Baudrillard in Simulacra and Simulation)

Actor Michael J. that is.

Well, you got me clicking the article. So hope The Hill is happy.

It has to be a form of hysteria.

Poll: New Hampshire Democrats would prefer an extinction-causing meteor over Trump reelection

How convenient you do not remember Vindman reading directly from his performance review giving testimony to the House. You really are fucking vicious and a tool. We have our own KellyAnne Conway here on TPF: nos4! Must give you goosebumps of pride to be such a traitor to truth.

First woman to run a winning election campaign. You’re more of a George Conway.

Lol. The New York Times leans left? What a joke. In the US they don't seem to know what "left" really is. Compared to the Netherlands, Republicans would be far right of any of our main parties. The democrats world be right of centre. Bernies' ideas are centrist here and generally embraced by must right wing parties as well (those aspects to do with the welfare state)

As 180proof described in the other thread on the road to 2020, it's a choice between gonorrhoea or syphilis. Also, I've read the NYT for years and it has been downhill since it stopped being the International Herald Tribune.

Do people believe Trump writes his own Tweets, or is it just a paid campaign person?

Lol. The New York Times leans left? What a joke. In the US they don't seem to know what "left" really is. Compared to the Netherlands, Republicans would be far right of any of our main parties. The democrats world be right of centre. Bernies' ideas are centrist here and generally embraced by must right wing parties as well (those aspects to do with the welfare state) — Benkei

You can add Ireland and most of Western Europe to that.

Interesting developments in the Giuliani saga.

It appears that the DOJ is finally vetting the info he has gathered. Giuliani has claimed that he possesses a smoking gun in regards to the Bidens, and indeed many Democrats, including evidence of bribery and money laundering.

Until now the DOJ and State dept wouldn’t touch it. But, though Barr has stressed that any info from Ukraine cannot be trusted at face value, the DOJ has set up an “intake process” through which the info can be scrutinized. FBI Deputy-Director Bowdich also confirmed he has received the evidence.

It’s either going to be proven to be propaganda and Rudy fell for it, or its going to get really messy for the previous administration. If the documented evidence is true, hopefully we can expect some much-needed justice and perp-walks.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if it turned out Hunter Biden was just as corrupt as Giuliani and Trump. And Biden Sr. is an irrelevancy now re the nomination, so who cares I suppose.

Just another distraction. Meanwhile, Pete Butthole is doing too well in the primaries. I suppose it's progress that white privilege now also extends to gay white men.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if it turned out Hunter Biden was just as corrupt as Giuliani and Trump. And Biden Sr. is an irrelevancy now re the nomination, so who cares I suppose.

Except Giuliani and Trump have never been convicted or even charged with corruption, even after years of investigations. Giuliani brought down the Mafia.

Just another distraction. Meanwhile, Pete Butthole is doing too well in the primaries. I suppose it's progress that white privilege now also extends to gay white men.

I hope that’s sarcasm.

It’s either going to be proven to be propaganda and Rudy fell for it, or its going to get really messy for the previous administration. If the documented evidence is true, hopefully we can expect some much-needed justice and perp-walks. — NOS4A2

And in current context, it's all a great big red herring.