I was saying that you are more than you think, or are conditioned to think. That there is a kind of enquiry through contemplation of self, as well as philosophical enquiry, or scientific enquiry.
Is that ok? — Punshhh
That's the premise.‘God’ cannot be shown or known, so ‘God’ is but wished for and hoped for, which is called ‘faith’, in short. — PoeticUniverse
Can God be known? Of course. — Old Brian
I agree, but what I was talking about when I began to contribute to this thread was something else entirely. No disrespect to yourself or the other posters, but I have to point that logic, thinking in a reasoned way, cannot answer the questions about God/s, it cannot even address the issue other than in the form of a commentary, or social/cultural analysis of things that other people have reasoned. Don't get me wrong I am aware of the value of logic in the human world*, but this thread is not asking about the human world, but about god/s.Let's settle with "most likely I am different from what I think I am", although in exceptionally rare cases, a person can be precisely what or who he thinks he is.
But we don't know god. From our point of view now, God is not known. He is in hiding. We don't know what he is like, what he wants, what he wants of us. All these are matters of faith.
Can god be known? Yes, but only if he exists. And we have no clue if he exists or not.
4 billion years of expansion has stretched the original information over the 2D surface of a thin membrane — Gnomon
not knowing God — Old Brian
He is in hiding — god must be atheist
:up:Everything connects to everything else
Through overlapping interference patterns,
And so nothing is so separate at all, as it seems,
But is one large all-encompassing whole.
. . . . . .
We are part and parcel of everything—
We are the cosmos; we are life; we are love;
We are all that is; we are the creator
Of the dance as well as the dancer. — PoeticUniverse
My G*D model is defined as ALL, the Whole of which humans are curious particles.This then is the secret of the universe,
Knowing of that which underlies all reality:
Fundamental, absolute, indestructible,
Omnipresent, indeterminate, but all pervasive.
Why absolute and fundamental?
Because it is made of one piece—itself,
And therefore indestructible, and eternal, too,
And makes up all that there is, everywhere. — PoeticUniverse
My personal illusion of Reality is created in my own mind by interpreting those incoming signals (wave patterns) according to some inherent (significant) commonality. Like Morse Code, both sender and receiver must speak the same language. In my thesis, the common language of the universe is Information, which boils down to 1 or 0, on or off, dot or dash, From that cosmic communication, we know "part & parcel", absence & presence, "life & love".Interference patterns of virtual reality. — PoeticUniverse
I was just reminded, by your physical/metaphysical poetry, of the book by Gevin Giorbran : Everything Forever, Learning to See Timelessness.https://www.amazon.com/Everything-Forever-Learning-See-Timelessness/dp/0979186102/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=everything+forever&link_code=qs&qid=1572222362&sourceid=Mozilla-search&sr=8-1In No Time and No Space
What came first, the matter or the light,
Since it seems that each needs the other to be?
There’s no first, only at the same ‘time’.
Photons, electrons, positrons are all-at-once. — PoeticUniverse
I was just reminded, by your physical/metaphysical poetry, of the book by Gevin Giorbran : Everything Forever, Learning to See Timelessness — Gnomon
Do you have a link to "The Final Answer"? Was it written by Nobody or by you?You are a genius, for a digest of 'Everything Forever' is next in the poem, completing it, as 'The Final Answer', although it's rather long; Nobody's portion is done, but he referenced Giorbran in a forum post and so must have liked Gevin's idea. Nobody is probably not dead but cannot currently be found anywhere online. — PoeticUniverse
Do you have a link to "The Final Answer"? Was it written by Nobody or by you? — Gnomon
My G*D model is defined as ALL, the Whole of which humans are curious particles. — Gnomon
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