• S
    11.4k
    I'm still waiting.

    And do come with something tangible rather than insults and opinions.
    Tzeentch

    What are you waiting for? This has been a case of mission easily accomplished. That you've decided not to accept the obvious isn't really my problem, it's yours.
  • A Gnostic Agnostic
    53
    "Belief" is not so much a virtue as "knowing" who, what, where, why, when, how, and/or if *not* to "believe" and why.

    "Belief" is the agency required to confuse good with evil, and evil with good.

    If god is all-knowing, all-knowing necessarily must include knowing all of who, what, where, why,
    when, how, and/or if *not* to "believe" something/anything and why. This necessarily involves knowledge of good and evil:

    good/evil motive (love/hatred)
    good/evil intention (honesty/deception)
    good/evil will (embrace/enmity)

    as one who "knows" evil motives, evil intentions and evil will knows not to "believe" (ie. eat the fruits of) anything that comes from such evil. This protects one from becoming "bound to believe" in something that is not actually true.

    Therefor, as one tends towards oneness with god (ie. all-knowing), one tends more toward knowing who, what, where, why, when, how, and/or if *not* to "believe" and why, thus never becoming somehow "bound to believe" good (god) is evil (satan).

    I find this as the solution to the Edenic dilemma:

    ..........I AM..........
    ......../_____\........
    .I believe...I know.

    I know = tree of living
    I believe = tree of knowledge of good and evil

    wherein only the fruits of the tree of knowledge of good and evil (ie. BELIEFS) can be false (ie. poison; cause death) whereas truly (only truly) knowing is the way of the living - to truly know. Know what?

    "Belief" is not so much a virtue as "knowing" who, what, where, why, when, how, and/or if *not* to "believe" and why.

    Christ consciousness does not come lest by way of knowing the suffering of others.
  • Pattern-chaser
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    "Belief" is the agency required to confuse good with evil, and evil with good.A Gnostic Agnostic

    It seems you're already confused, without the need for belief. Is "good" good for you, for your family and friends, for your fellow countrymen, for all humans, or for all living things in God's universe? Without this qualification (context), "good" means nothing. The same applies to "evil", of course. :chin:
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