what carries one to move the hypothesis (or any human idea) forward? A Belief of some sort?
What is wonder? Why do we have it?
Here's an Existential question: what if we didn't have belief and wonder? What would that look like?
I don't mean to take the wind out of your sails and respect your trying to rigorously think this through. However you may be overthinking it.
Using the reasoning you provided for a lack of belief you said, is a desire to know. The desire to know is a sense of wonder.
You are smart enough to know that indeed this is a rant, but I would suggest another question, what is behind your rant?
Is "belief" a virtue? — A Gnostic Agnostic
I find "believe is not a virtue, as one can "know", via conscience, who, what, where, why, when, how and if *not* to "believe", and this is necessarily superior to "belief". — A Gnostic Agnostic
I did not provide reasoning for a "lack of belief" anywhere - that "belief" is not a virtue does not mean lack of a belief. I understand "belief" has a utility, but the point is it is not a virtue. That "belief" itself is "believed" to be a virtue is a problem. One can have a belief, but when it is made into a virtue it becomes problematic as there is a state superior to "believing", which is "knowing". This includes knowing what not to believe, which requires conscience (ie. self-inquiry). — A Gnostic Agnostic
I find "belief" to be the agency required by what is referred to as "satan" to confuse people into "believing" such: whatever "good" actually is, is really evil, and whatever "evil" is, is actually good - like an inversion. I find "belief" therefor to be like chains that enslave people to something that is not actually real and, as it happens, the reality is actually the opposite. How potent can a god be if it requires "belief"? Is it not the goal of "satan" to make people "believe" that satan is god? In what possible scenario would "belief" be a virtue if so? To indulge in the very thing satan needs to confuse? This is why I do not grant for a moment that "belief" is any kind of virtue. — A Gnostic Agnostic
You are smart enough to know that indeed this is a rant, but I would suggest another question, what is behind your rant? — 3017amen
Calling yourself "Gnostic Agnositc" gave me the impression that you come from Christianity. — T Clark
if we are to take a critical stance towards religious beliefs, why not all beliefs? — Tzeentch
I find "belief" to be the agency required by what is referred to as "satan" to confuse people into "believing" such [...] I find "belief" therefore to be like chains that enslave people to something that is not actually real and, as it happens, the reality is actually the opposite. — A Gnostic Agnostic
You are ultimately correct: it is absolutely neutral like breathing in reality. — A Gnostic Agnostic
I take gnostic as 'knowing' thus 'a gnostic agnostic' means "what I know, I know, what I do not know, I do not know" and for me the rest is "belief" which has no virtue in it at all. — A Gnostic Agnostic
"Believers" persecute "unbelievers" for not "believing" things that are not true. This is fascism — A Gnostic Agnostic
men who desire to spill the blood of a woman for "insulting" their male central figure idol. — A Gnostic Agnostic
So it's reverse inspiration!!! — 3017amen
Do you consider there to be a difference between believing religious scripture and believing the text in a history book?
"an expression of being bound in an ongoing state"
Belief based on facts has merit. No?
Are they willing to spill blood over it? — A Gnostic Agnostic
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