• Sapientia
    5.8k
    Reading about Egypt when Trump & Co pop up again. It's never anything reassuring with this lot.

    American officials couldn’t get their facts right. James Mattis, then the commander of American forces in the region, blamed the Brotherhood alone for Egypt’s troubles. He later claimed that the constitution backed by Mr Morsi had been “rejected immediately by over 60% of the people”. In fact, about two-thirds of voters approved the charter, which is similar to the one Egypt has now. Mr Mattis and Michael Flynn, then head of the Defence Intelligence Agency, lumped the Brotherhood in with the jihadists of al-Qaeda and Islamic State, even though the Brothers repeatedly condemned those groups and opposed violence. Both men were given top jobs by Donald Trump.

    [...]

    Today’s American administration does not even wish it were different. To them, Mr Sisi has said all the right things. He wants to moderate Islam and reform the economy. He calls Mr Trump “a unique personality that is capable of doing the impossible”. Mr Trump, in turn, celebrates Mr Sisi’s tough leadership and calls him “a fantastic guy”. Like so many others, the American president seems unconcerned that autocracy is again breeding misery and extremism in Egypt.
    — The Economist

    Egypt’s path from autocracy to revolution—and back again
  • Michael
    7.1k
    What's this Space Force nonsense all about?
  • StreetlightX
    2.7k
    I think you mean, Great Soon To Be Reality!
  • Baden
    6.2k

    What the...?

    Trump can't even dominate the space between his ears.
  • wellwisher
    161
    I heard that Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is going to break his silence and give an interview where he reveals his source of the DNC leaks. It may be in the next week or so.

    If you recall, nobody ever denied anything that was revealed by Wikileaks, since it was all true. All the DNC did was try to divert attention by playing a blame game. Wikileaks showed how Hillary was willing to back stab a popular member of her own party to get ahead. Bernie Sanders was ripped off.

    If someone is capable of that, one should then realize what she would be willing to do to someone who was not in her party who was seen as the enemy. She would pay and collude with foreign nationals to write a phony dossier to be used to set up fantasy collusion scenario designed to harm an elected President.

    Assange is going to bring us back to the beginning, so we can have perspective and so the lies can start to unravel in the minds of the mindless.
  • Baden
    6.2k


    The phony dossier nonsense again. :yawn:
  • Benkei
    1.6k
    heard that Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is going to break his silence and give an interview where he reveals his source of the DNC leaks. It may be in the next week or so.

    If you recall, nobody ever denied anything that was revealed by Wikileaks, since it was all true. All the DNC did was try to divert attention by playing a blame game. Wikileaks showed how Hillary was willing to back stab a popular member of her own party to get ahead. Bernie Sanders was ripped off.

    If someone is capable of that, one should then realize what she would be willing to do to someone who was not in her party who was seen as the enemy. She would pay and collude with foreign nationals to write a phony dossier to be used to set up fantasy collusion scenario designed to harm an elected President.

    Assange is going to bring us back to the beginning, so we can have perspective and so the lies can start to unravel in the minds of the mindless.
    wellwisher

    This has exactly zero bearing on whether Trump colluded or not and the Russian intereference in the election. It's a red herring.
  • ArguingWAristotleTiff
    2.9k
    What's this Space Force nonsense all about?Michael

    Our satellites in space are at risk of being knocked off balance or taken out completely via a missile. We have known this risk since the first satellite was sent to space but the advancement of other countries abilities to possess such a missile has increased the risk. Considering how much of our technological lives depend on those satellites in space and their ability to communicate with each other and our devices on Earth, it seems like a ripe target. A target that would not kill a human with the missile but the cascading effect of that loss of communication would have a death toll.
  • Michael
    7.1k
    Isn't the air force already doing that?
  • ArguingWAristotleTiff
    2.9k
    No. The Air Force operates and protects our Air through force and I am not being factious. The Space Force is above the Air Force in the sense of where we can defend and travel.
  • ArguingWAristotleTiff
    2.9k
    The Space Force is going to be protecting our satellites in a new domain that used to be dominated by the USA but that has changed. If a country tried to and successfully knocks one of our satellites off grid, every time based transaction world wide would come to halt. That includes but is hardly limited to:

    Every banking transaction.
    The control over our power grid.
    The logistical control over our delivering of food and fuel.
    Our ability to control commercial air travel.
    Battlefield operations.

    We are not talking about a Space Man like Buzz Lightyear being out in Space to protect our satellites. But the Space Force being developed is something that was needed yesterday so we really need to get ON it. To use citizen dollars to start up such a HUGE branch of military is a heavy lift but a necessary one.

    The question of necessity is valid as we do have an Air Force but there was a time when the air force was part of the Army and eventually grew to be it's own branch. We are watching the birth of another branch of our military.
  • Aleksander Kvam
    213
    A target that would not kill a human with the missile but the cascading effect of that loss of communication would have a death toll.ArguingWAristotleTiff

    How so? Just curious...
  • Maw
    904
    So can we get medicare for all then
  • ArguingWAristotleTiff
    2.9k
    How so? Just curious...Aleksander Kvam

    Meaning the missile wouldn't directly kill anyone but the effects of the missile taking out our satellite would have an effect on those here on Earth.

    The death toll would come from every possible direction. Landing planes full of people without any GPS? The power going out in Arizona today when it will be 105* and surging in California where the fires would not be able to be fought from the sky and the communication on the ground between the trucks and command would be gone. Everything that relies on GPS would be fucked.

    Which includes any pizza that @Maw might get us all wanting.
  • Baden
    6.2k
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/10/omarosa-trump-book-the-apprentice-memoir

    "[Omarosa] claims that she personally witnessed Trump use racial epithets about the White House counselor Kellyanne Conway’s husband George Conway, who is half Filipino. “Would you look at this George Conway article?” she quotes the president as saying. “F**ing FLIP! Disloyal! Fucking Goo-goo.”

    “It had finally sunk in that the person I’d thought I’d known so well for so long was actually a racist. Using the N-word was not just the way he talks but, more disturbing, it was how he thought of me and African Americans as a whole.”
  • Maw
    904
    whoa Trump is a racist? big if true
  • Benkei
    1.6k
    Every banking transaction.
    The control over our power grid.
    The logistical control over our delivering of food and fuel.
    Our ability to control commercial air travel.
    Battlefield operations.
    ArguingWAristotleTiff

    The first four aren't true. That's all landlines. The last one is greatly helped by GPS but not dependent on it.
  • Michael
    7.1k
    No. The Air Force operates and protects our Air through force and I am not being factious. The Space Force is above the Air Force in the sense of where we can defend and travel.ArguingWAristotleTiff

    Air Force Space Command

    Air Force "Hardens" Satellites to Prepare for Space War
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