• Wayfarer
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    The difference between seditious conspiracy and insurrection is unimportant to the case.
  • Michael
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    People coerce others.NOS4A2

    How? What have the judges done to coerce the secretary?
  • Wayfarer
    20.9k
    Note the specific charge against Trump, 'comforting an insurrection', which exactly parallels the expression in the 14th Amendment clause.

    If you don't see, it's not because it isn't there, but because you have chosen to be willfully blind, like other members of the Trump cult. I don't know why anyone bothers responding to you, and I certainly no longer will.
  • NOS4A2
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    They’ve ordered her to remove Trump from the ballot.
  • Michael
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    They’ve ordered her to remove Trump from the ballot.NOS4A2

    And their orders are just words. Therefore, if their orders have coerced her then their words have coerced her, which according to you is impossible.
  • NOS4A2
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    No one has been charged with insurrection. You can’t pretend two different crimes are the same. I’m sorry you can’t get past that. Good riddance.
  • NOS4A2
    8.4k


    And their orders are just words. Therefore, of their orders have coerced her then their words have coerced her, which according to you is impossible.

    I didn’t say their orders coerced her. Words cannot coerce. Words cannot order. Words cannot do what you keep trying to pretend they do. I said they ordered her.
  • Michael
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    I didn’t say their orders coerced her.NOS4A2

    You: People coerce others.
    Me: What have the judges done to coerce the secretary?
    You: They’ve ordered her to remove Trump from the ballot.

    Make up your mind. You're tying yourself in knots trying to defend your indefensible position.
  • NOS4A2
    8.4k


    Are people orders now? I don’t get what I’m supposed to be making my mind up about.
  • Michael
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    Are people orders now?NOS4A2

    Me: What have the judges done to coerce the secretary?
    You: They’ve ordered her to remove Trump from the ballot.

    If your response doesn't answer my question then I'm still waiting on an answer.
  • NOS4A2
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    Me: They’ve ordered her to remove Trump from the ballot.

    You: And their orders are just words. Therefore, if their orders have coerced her then their words have coerced her, which according to you is impossible.
  • Michael
    14.4k


    Yes, thanks for repeating the nonsense.

    The hypocrisy in your claim that the court saying things is an act of coercion but that Trump saying things can't be an act of influence is laughable.

    This is what happens when you will do anything to refuse to admit that Trump is in the wrong.
  • AmadeusD
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    Me: They’ve ordered her to remove Trump from the ballot.

    You: And their orders are just words. Therefore, if their orders have coerced her then their words have coerced her, which according to you is impossible.
    NOS4A2

    Fwiw, this is incoherent. The words have no coercive power. The threat of losing his/her job might. But that's not on the judge/s by the other commenter's account.
  • NOS4A2
    8.4k


    Do orders order, commands command, according to you?
  • Michael
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    Do orders order, commands command, according to you?NOS4A2

    Obviously.
  • Michael
    14.4k
    Trump recorded pressuring Wayne County canvassers not to certify 2020 vote

    More evidence of his direct involvement in an illegal scheme to defraud the election.
  • NOS4A2
    8.4k


    Humans don’t command or order, then, only their words do?
  • NOS4A2
    8.4k


    Fwiw, this is incoherent. The words have no coercive power. The threat of losing his/her job might. But that's not on the judge/s by the other commenter's account.

    Why would she lose her job?
  • Michael
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    Humans don’t command or order, then, only their words do?NOS4A2

    Humans command by using words, just like humans kill by using a gun.

    And Trump influenced his cult by using his words.
  • NOS4A2
    8.4k


    Right, humans command. Humans order. But you believe commands command and orders order. I’m just trying to wade through the magical thinking here.
  • AmadeusD
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    If she contravenes a court order and adds Trump to the ballot...??
  • Michael
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    But you believe commands command and orders order.NOS4A2

    Yes, just as guns kill.

    I’m just trying to wade through the magical thinking here.NOS4A2

    It's not magic, it's common sense. The problem is that your position is nonsense.
  • NOS4A2
    8.4k


    Right, I was just making sure.
  • NOS4A2
    8.4k


    Guns are murderers now. Commands are commanders. We have a little fantasyland going on here.
  • schopenhauer1
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    I don't see why he's fighting to be on any ballot considering he's already told us the elections are rigged. Why does he want to enter a contest where he knows the result is already decided against him? It seems more fair that he be cheated early by the Colorado courts than to force him through the time and expense to just be cheated later by the vote counters.Hanover

    :lol:

    If he loses it’s rigged, if he wins it’s just.
  • Michael
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    Guns are murderers now.NOS4A2

    I said that guns kill, not that guns are murderers. If I said that drowning kills then would you interpret that as me saying that water is a murderer?
  • NOS4A2
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    Sorry, guns are killers now. I wonder how they get away with it.
  • Michael
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    Sorry, guns are killers now. I wonder how they get away with it.NOS4A2

    I said that guns kill, not that guns are killers. If I said that downing kills then would you interpret that as me saying that water is a killer?
  • NOS4A2
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    I suppose then that guns shoot people? Lock them up!
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