• Relativist
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    In short, in my opinion in Trump we have not just a very bad man and a very bad president, but also an enemy. Or a conduit for enemy input. If anyone can think of anything that makes more sense, please post ittim wood
    IMO, Trump is the apotheosis of narcissism. He wants to "win", and will cheat to do so. This alone doesn't imply he will harm the U.S. The bigger danger is that he's uninformed, lazy, and always things his uninformed opinions are right.
  • Benkei
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    1. Alabama Lawmakers Vote to Effectively Ban Abortion in the StateMaw

    This is just vindictive. No abortion even in case of invest and rape.
  • Wallows
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    If anyone can think of anything that makes more sense, please post it.tim wood

    Here's my take from my plebian perspective. Trump is trying to imitate Reagan through adherence to neo-conservative economic thought. There's also a lot of libertarian sentiment in his philosophy of governance. Also, he has a lot of humanity in him, which other people don't really notice or are biased about him being on team red. He hasn't started any new wars, wants us to direly go back to the moon. Is very concerned about the American public, although some might say in a misguided manner. Psychologically he displays traits of an antisocial personality with a tinge of paranoia... He trusts Russians more than his own advisors, which is worrying to say the least. He has a very short attention span and is obsessed with the media, which is where he derives most of his "stable genius" insights.

    The fundamental mistake about Trump is that he thinks that the American government should be run like a business, which is his area of expertise. But, the simple fact is that he is quite inept and unqualified for the job. You're going to hate me for saying this; but, if it comes down to a decision between Biden or Trump, I would pick Trump. As others have said Biden is Hillary with a penis.
  • Wallows
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    Although, I should say that neo-cons like Bush and the like, fundamentally hate Trump for sabotaging Jeb's chance at the Bush dynasty. So, too the Clintons hate him for dashing their chance at their own dynasty.
  • ssu
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    You're going to hate me for saying this; but, if it comes down to a decision between Biden or Trump, I would pick Trump.Wallows
    This is the new normal. This guy is so bad and lousy he actually cannot do much, but the other guys are going to be even worse.

    Perhaps inability to do anything should be viewed as a positive trait?
  • Benkei
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    As others have said Biden is Hillary with a penis.Wallows

    That was me, glad you liked the analogy. :lol:
  • S
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    You're going to hate me for saying this; but, if it comes down to a decision between Biden or Trump, I would pick Trump. As others have said Biden is Hillary with a penis.Wallows

    Well that's just stupid, because Hillary was a better candidate than Trump, so Hillary with a penis would be a better candidate than Trump. Why would you pick the worse candidate? Not voting at all would be better than that. And voting for the best candidate would be the best course of action.
  • Benkei
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    Well admittedly, Trump did manage to raise taxes through tariffs without anyone complaining about it. No mean feat in the US. I think he's secretly a communist.
  • Wallows
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    I think he's secretly a communistBenkei

    :love:
  • Wallows
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    And voting for the best candidate would be the best course of action.S

    Yeah, define best... Go figure.
  • praxis
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    You're going to hate me for saying this; but, if it comes down to a decision between Biden or Trump, I would pick Trump. As others have said Biden is Hillary with a penis.Wallows

    So why is Hillary (or Biden with a vagina) worse than Trump?
  • Wallows
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    Trump comes off to me as a human being, although with flaws, just like anyone else. Clinton and Biden have their prerogatives and frankly I'll come off as a loon but their are deeply entrenched in special interests and the "deep state".

    *Goes and takes his meds*
  • praxis
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    Maybe you'll feel differently after the meds kick-in.
  • Wallows
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    Yeah, and here I take my bow and leave with some semblance of dignity.
  • tim wood
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    I would pick Trump.Wallows
    That is, you would pick the bad man. Apparently you're not alone. Plato and Aristotle had quite a lot to say about the good and the bad man. Not knowing the bad man as a bad man is a serious piece of ignorance. With the bad man, you deserve whatever you get. Are you going to tell me that Trump is a good man? If yes, in what way?

    It seems to me that he has an astonishingly consistent record of doing the bad thing in the bad way. Think of the things he's tried to accomplish and failed. There's a peculiar quality to that trail of failure. It almost seems as if success or failure were not really the issue, but that making a mess is - and his administration is oddly good at that.

    Anyway, if you vote, don't vote for the bad man.
  • Wayfarer
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    Trump is trying to imitate Reagan through adherence to neo-conservative economic thought. There's also a lot of libertarian sentiment in his philosophy of governance.Wallows

    :lol: That is just too funny - believing Trump has a philosophy, or expertise.

    Think of the things he's tried to accomplish and failed.tim wood

    'Malevolence foiled by incompetence'.
  • thedeadidea
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    :lol: That is just too funny - believing Trump has a philosophy, or expertise.Wayfarer

    Trump has a natural instinct for Science... a natural instinct for life.... he is an instinctual autodidact, a self-educated man who never read a book but relied on his ethereal instinct.

    Yeah, and here I take my bow and leave with some semblance of dignity.Wallows

    The cleaver of ChimpPig gets no dignity....


    'Malevolence foiled by incompetence'.Wayfarer

    But this is why he is such a great jobs president.

    .............

    In all honesty the only logical reason you would vote for Trump is that you hate humanity and either want to see the death of the species, destruction of all civilization or fall of the United States and you are just voting for Trump to expedite the process and so you can point and laugh all the while.

    Trump is an abortion all grown up.
  • Maw
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    This is just vindictive. No abortion even in case of invest and rape.Benkei

    Yeah pretty I'm fucking angry today.
  • Relativist
    657
    This is just vindictive. No abortion even in case of invest and rape.Benkei
    This was passed for one reason: to make its way to the Supreme Court, to give them an opportunity to strike down Roe v Wade.

    Pat Robertson thinks this is not the best approach, because it goes SO far, it's easy to strike down without having to wrestle with the nuances. Even so, if it's struck down - it will show the current SCOTUS supports SOME abortion rights. We'll see.
  • Benkei
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    Yeah, I suppose because it's done for the greater good it's all fine and dandy and totally lessens the vindictiveness of it all. :chin:

    Pat Robertson thinks this is not the best approach, because it goes SO far, it's easy to strike down without having to wrestle with the nuances. Even so, if it's struck down - it will show the current SCOTUS supports SOME abortion rights. We'll see.Relativist

    And some support for limitations on it.

    At least we know Kavanaugh will be in favour of abortion in case of rape because presumably a rapist like him doesn't want illegitimate children to walk around as proof.
  • Relativist
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    At least we know Kavanaugh will be in favour of abortion in case of rape because presumably a rapist like him doesn't want illegitimate children to walk around as proof.Benkei
    Not at all. Striking down Roe v Wade does not outlaw abortion, it just permits individual states to do so. Trump and Kavanaugh can fly their Alabama girlfriends to New York to destroy the evidence of their indiscretions.
  • Wayfarer
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    Trump storms out of meeting with dems

    As if the Trump administration weren't already chaotic and ineffective, as documented by Michael Wolff and Bob Woodward last year, it has now reached the point where the White House and the Democratic Party can't even sit in the same room.

    Trump really does seem to believe that the Mueller Report really did exonerate him, and that the investigation is a phoney witch hunt, as he keeps saying. I don't think this is at all true - but how can you run the country, with this issue still ticking along under every headline?

    I mean, regardless of whether Trump should be impeached or not - I think he definitely should - it's simply going to be impossible for the Government of the United States to function when the presidency and the houses are operating at daggers drawn. There is going to have to be a boilover of some kind.
  • Wayfarer
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    Drilling down on the story a bit more the consensus is that Trump didn't have, and couldn't get, anywhere near the trillions of dollars that he had been talking about for infrastructure, that was the purported subject of the meeting. Journalists noted that, affixed to the Rose Garden podium, was a nicely printed No Collusion No Obstruction poster for when Trump stormed out of the meeting and started to kvetch. So the whole walk-out was staged as a smokescreen for the inability to deliver the infrastructure funding, which was itself a smokescreen.

    But the point remains - politics in the US is nearing total paralysis due to a combination of Trump's ineptitude and unfitness for office, and the ongoing consequences of the Mueller report. I mean, just what is not redacted in that report, is far, far worse than anything Richard Nixon was accused of doing, and he resigned before impeachment proceedings even began. But then, compared to the incumbent, Richard Nixon was an honest man.
  • Wallows
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    Guy must have done too much cocaine with the prostitutes or something. Someone give me dictator Pence over this guy...
  • Relativist
    657
    Drilling down on the story a bit more the consensus is that Trump didn't have, and couldn't get, anywhere near the trillions of dollars that he had been talking about for infrastructure, that was the purported subject of the meeting. Journalists noted that, affixed to the Rose Garden podium, was a nicely printed No Collusion No Obstruction poster for when Trump stormed out of the meeting and started to kvetch. So the whole walk-out was staged as a smokescreen for the inability to deliver the infrastructure funding, which was itself a smokescreen.Wayfarer
    So, since there was no point in having a meeting, Trump decided to make a show of it. Sounds Trumpian.
  • Wayfarer
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    Some highlights from the Rose Garden Rant:

    Positively everybody was out to get him. They were out to get him in the third person: “They hated President Trump. They hated him with a passion,” he said. They were out to get him in the first-person plural: “These people were out to get us, the Republican Party and President Trump. They were out to get us.” What’s more, they have been after him “pretty much from the time we came down the escalator in Trump Tower.” And now they probably will impeach him because they “do whatever they have to do.”

    
He raged on. House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) has “been an enemy of mine for many years.” The “whole thing was a takedown attempt.” The assembled press “ought to be ashamed of yourselves for the way you report it so dishonestly.” And, even though he was the one who blew up the infrastructure meeting, he just knew that Democrats were “not really thinking they wanted to do infrastructure or anything else other than investigate.”


    He ricocheted randomly among inchoate thought fragments: Infrastructure. WITCH HUNT! Unemployment. NO COLLUSION! Drug prices. HOAX! A special election in Pennsylvania. ONE-SIDED HORRIBLE THING! Tax cuts. DON JR. HAS GONE THROUGH HELL! I love the American people. IMPEACHMENT! Regulations. A DISGRACE! ABUSE!


    Nobody seemed to know what to make of the explosion. White House officials reportedly said they tried to stop Trump from making the Rose Garden appearance. And for good reason: With Wednesday’s public announcement that he won’t negotiate with Democrats, the president has taken ownership of the lack of progress on infrastructure and other legislation — much the way he took ownership of the government shutdown.

    https://wapo.st/2wg2j8S
  • Wallows
    8.1k
    Rumor has it that Trump is snorting Adderall since cocaine is not available.
  • Wayfarer
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    Trump is a teetotal, never drinks, never has there been any suggestion that he takes drugs. His problems are not in the least associated with intoxicants.
  • Wallows
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    His problems are not in the least associated with intoxicants.Wayfarer

    Then what are they associated with?
  • Wayfarer
    7.4k
    Read the news :roll:
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