Fascism is specifically about nationalism and an aggressive military. The ills of corporate rule are not correctly called "fascism ". It's just the dark side of liberalism. — frank
As long as pessimism isn’t a preventative for action, I’ve no problem with it. — Mikie
Fascism is a pretty general term these days, but it's exact meaning isn't the point. — Isaac
You can argue that both are forced upon the individual, but I think a lot of it isn't forced upon us.I think that is a good point. What’s missing from both is the morality. It would be nice if we didn’t need both, either state-enforced cooperation or private interest, to tackle social ills such as poverty and redistribution. — NOS4A2
We use our reason, speech, and bodies to derive, confer, and protect rights, like any right that has ever been uttered. — NOS4A2
We observe human nature in order to find what is universal about human beings. For instance, humans need to speak, to communicate, to be creative. So we grant them the freedom to speak, refuse to intervene when they are doing so, and defend that right if necessary.
But wherever a group is represented in people’s minds through its more salient features, whether it be shared government, religion, race, and so on, those features will invariably be used against that group in a fashion that blinds one to the unique and original characteristics of any individual person. — NOS4A2
Rights are a kind of normative principle. We entitle people to act within a sphere of acceptable activity. These entitlements are afforded to others in order to let them know we will not intervene in these activities, and defend them if necessary. — NOS4A2
I observe that humans tend to speak. I conclude that it is in their nature to speak, that speaking is required to live. So I confer the right to speak. Since I confer the right I do not intervene when they speak and defend them as they do. No institution required. — NOS4A2
The quoted statements do not contradict each other because one is concerned with human nature and the other with sub-group characteristics and dynamics. One can observe what is universal about human beings while at the same time remembering what is unique and original about each of them. — NOS4A2
The biology is universal. From it comes a variety of needs and tendencies. We need to eat, drink, and breathe, for example. We tend to move. We tend to speak. We tend to find shelter. We tend to associate with others. What is wrong with founding a set of principles upon these most basic needs and tendencies? — NOS4A2
Your moral obligations do not make sense to me because they are unjust and born of feelings. They do not consider whether someone is deserving of being lied to, or whether the situation demands that someone lies. Sometimes lying and insult are key to various art forms, like satire, irony, and fiction. It is because of justice, not feelings, that the freedom to speak includes the right to lie and be mean. — NOS4A2
from your list, everybody has a right to eat, drink and breathe. So if you have enough food for two, another starving person has a right to half of it? — Benkei
So according to you there are no situations where lying is unjustified and immoral?
I've seen you making appeals to nature, which is a fallacy.
from your list, everybody has a right to eat, drink and breathe. So if you have enough food for two, another starving person has a right to half of it?
In the natural state, there's also no property. Which I'm pretty sure you think is rather important.
That sense of belonging and social cohesion is important in an otherwise alienating world, especially when we inherently have different ideas of how things should be and we actually might not share much in common with others.Collectivism of the national sort does compel one to conform, and conformity does work well towards “social cohesion”. Many embrace it as it can give one a sense of belonging in an otherwise alienating world. — NOS4A2
Invariably?But wherever a group is represented in people’s minds through its more salient features, whether it be shared government, religion, race, and so on, those features will invariably be used against that group in a fashion that blinds one to the unique and original characteristics of any individual person. — NOS4A2
And what would be that kumbayah-thing? I don't think "my-myself-and-I" would be that.One need not adopt another collective myth to find affinity with other others, especially one that is exclusive to a vast majority of human beings. — NOS4A2
Washington state has now banned selling assault weapons
— KING 5 Seattle · Apr 25, 2023 — jorndoe
Two weeks after mass shootings shook their country, Serbians have surrendered more than 15,000 weapons, more than 2,500 explosive devices, and hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammunition, as part of a month-long amnesty announced by the government. — CNN
Other countries respond to mass shootings in a way that the USA never does - because of the dogma about the right of gun ownership being equated with freedom. — Wayfarer
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