• kazan
    239
    @Banno and @Tom Storm,

    We seem to have an unanimous general agreement of three answers to nil as regards election influences on nation wide surveyed results. But, at an electorate by electorate level, particular issues can have disproportionate influence with the run on effect in a tight national election..at least at the lower house level.
    Nice item ( evidence based...) for the ironic wish list, Banno. Not disagreeing though, just living in a too early millenium to hope!

    An aside of a non political nature...."an unanimous" or "a unanimous" ? "An" looks correct in print but clashes on the ear when verbalized, personally. Anyone else have this disconnect? Might be merely a local dialect/education blip? Or a personal propensity for an extended pause between those two words when verbalized in a sentence? Probably much of a to do about nothing!

    Self deprecating smile
  • kazan
    239
    @Banno

    "Australia has a long history.......before the USA changes its monarch"

    Perhaps a Dutton govt next might be good on the face of what you're saying if the electorate was more politically savvy as an outcome. But it's a hell of a risk and the long term benefits look minimal, from the current and historical likelihood perspectives....short memories encourage the same mistakes to be made repeatedly. Wk? Hope vs Skepticism.

    trying to find a balanced smile
  • kazan
    239
    Sometimes, the feeling is of an exhausted swimmer clinging to a floaty called "Hope they see it" in the stormy sea called "Despondency", at this time in the electoral cycle.

    tired smile
  • kazan
    239
    Sorry, still trying to eliminate duplication.

    frustrated smile
  • Banno
    25.7k
    Sorry, still trying to eliminate duplication.kazan

    Too many windows? Good thing is you now can go back and edit those duplicates to add more stuff as you think of it.

    Try to make a habit of looking on the bright side.
  • kazan
    239
    Only gives "half" the picture, plus the glare is too often playing the same role as the fog on the dark side. Something comfortable about short bouts of the dark side....know thy enemy as thy enemy knows you...
    But, thanks for the well meaning pep. Looking out for those around you has to be part of the everyman's best take on living a good life.
    Just an opinion.
    cheery smile
  • Banno
    25.7k
    Just think of all those taxpayer funded business lunches you will be able to enjoy...
  • Tom Storm
    9.4k
    You may be right. I’m not huge on politics, all I really know is never vote Liberal.
  • kazan
    239
    @Banno,
    Interesting assumption that any taxes would be paid in the first place by those who do business lunches/junkets/upskilling, team building weekends, going on the reported company tax receipts, or lack thereof, of our "important" industries' giants. That is, the wage earning tax payers pay, through their income taxes, for the privilege of being employed by resource stripping multi nationals gutting the nation etc. Not just picking on the miners either. Motorways etc fall within that variety. Build infrastructure ( for the nation, of course) then toll the public for as long as the infrastructure is usable. Extolled as nation building! Good enough for a couple of reelections and then onto the next big deal. Same actors ( or family of),same modus, same results,same BS. Inventive minds used for spin instead of real repeatable national "wealth" creation. Yeah, get your ( being nice) "irony".

    @Tom Storm,
    Bit the same, unless you're born with the silver spoon ect.
    Rule of voting... believe nothing of what you hear,and only half of what you see and have examined thoroughly. And then, follow the money trail anyway. And don't vote early, that's for the don't cares and the rusted ons, or, in these hard times, the overseas holiday makers.

    Whew! Feel better after that. Time to examine the rations for tea, tonight...in these hard times!

    relaxed smile
  • kazan
    239
    Hard to determine where cynicism (should ) ends and mere skepticism takes over....in the philosophy of politics.

    concerned and still smiling
  • Banno
    25.7k
    Laura Tingle has a piece on the ABC today about long-term results of the recent coronation.

    If the US produces more gas, then there will be more competition for Australian NG. As the US pulls out of cooperative agreements - WHO, Paris, banking, tax and so on, it leaves space for China to fill.

    The Albanese response has been to show a steady hand - "Keeping us out of recession. 1.1 million jobs. Getting inflation from a six to a two. Making sure that people's living standards are looked after — from a six to a two. Completing the NBN. Finishing Gonski … Turning the decline in Medicare around and, importantly, moving towards — just as Labor governments have created Medicare, [and] universal provision of superannuation — we're taking the steps, and I announced in December, for universal provision of childcare".

    A taste of what we might expect in the run up to the election. All more or less true. How will it fly in the face of an opposition interested only in Australia Day, Auschwitz commemoration and business lunches?
  • kazan
    239
    @Banno,
    "How will it fly....lunches?"
    As usual, it will fly as well as the spin is received and impression making events unfold. Along with ads and the usual detritus used as fishing burly and paid for from the various interested parties' war chests.

    From the wage earners' perspective, each election promise's effect upon mortgages and rents will be carefully assessed.

    So,climate and energy mitigation, health, education, wages and employment etc. promises will all be most effective if they are couched in immediate cost of living reduction terms.

    Credit card health will determine the election outcome. There are not enough wealthy social philanthropists/idealists to sway elections towards long term nation growing and protecting directions.

    Oh, "democratic'' elections, when all the isms come out to play, but individualism determines the day!

    Just another opinion.

    Dumb punter smile
  • kazan
    239
    Thanks Banno,
    Will practice and read and reread and reread ad nauseam, wading through the assumptions of common knowledge until it works. And then practice, practice etc.

    exhausted smile
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