• Tom Storm
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    Well, my guy, Bandt was eventually vanquished. Not sure about Monique Ryan. Hamer is awful. Unfortunately Wilson got over the line.
  • Banno
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    Angus Taylor or Sussan Ley.

    Bloody hell.
  • Tom Storm
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    with a bang or with a whimper...
  • Wayfarer
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    shame that Dreyfus and Husic were rolled by factions - but that’s politics, I guess. I do wonder if Dreyfus will resign his seat, though. After such sterling service, it’s pretty shoddy treatment.
  • kazan
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    Angus Taylor or Sussan Ley.Banno

    Hope it's Angus. Better chance of them losing the next election.... if that would be best for the country when that election comes around.

    After such sterling service.Wayfarer

    Must have missed " such sterling service".
    Agree though with your sentiment, other front bench portfolios should have been offered to Husic and Dreyfus (particularly with the irony of the latter's historical namesake and the Att-Gen portfolio he had). Or maybe a couple of new or divided portfolios could be useful in this factions' biff?

    with a bang or with a whimper...Tom Storm

    Good one, assuming two minds are clicking on this.

    open smile
  • Wayfarer
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    It isn’t settled yet, until the final announcements are made by Albanese. I should wait until then.
  • kazan
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    It isn’t settled yet, until the final announcements are made by Albanese. I should wait until then.Wayfarer

    Quite true. But will Anthony be looking short, medium and/or long term next week? He's steady which is useful in this situation if he has the faction numbers.
    Don't follow factional Labor ( or any party) politics,probably should for a better understanding of policy decisions. Learning from the comments here though,in an intuitive way. Never too old to learn,if you want to, particularly when presented with a "new" area of.....(anything).

    slightly naive smile
  • Wayfarer
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    Hey the ABC vote counter how has Labor at 92 - which I think is the largest majority since Federation, unless I’m mistaken.
  • Tom Storm
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    Extraordinary - the banalities of Albo and the excesses of Trump have brought us to this. I can only imagine that Albo will waste the opportunity and fuck it up. But I hope I am wrong. Do you think he has a vision?
  • Wayfarer
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    I think the best that can be hoped for is competence. But that is something.
  • Wayfarer
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    Also, I do have confidence in some of the individual ministers. I think overall Chris Bowen has been effective in Climate Change. Jim Chalmers is highly professional in treasury. There are others. There's much more professionalism there than in the opposition team.
  • Tom Storm
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    Ryan beat Hamer in Kooyong. Thankfully.
  • Wayfarer
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    Plibersek: from environment to social services. Hardly a demotion although the media seems to want to frame it as such. Michelle Rowlands takes over as A-G. Full list here (The Guardian). Shame about Dreyfus and Husic, but, as the saying goes, that's politics.
  • Banno
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    Both Jenny McAllister and Mark Butler taking on the NDIS. Too much for one?
  • kazan
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    Do you think he has a vision?Tom Storm

    We'll know if/when he shares it.

    Admirable interview of Husic on 7.30 Report last night. Very much the consummate polly. Cultural background with Churchillian undertones being leveraged, perhaps?

    Unsure smile
  • kazan
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    Both Jenny McAllister and Mark Butler taking on the NDIS. Too much for one?Banno

    Move one after they get it sorted quickly... all that private provider inefficiency?
    Maybe?

    smile
  • Banno
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    Sussan Ley.

    Rynhart won't be happy with a "moderate".
  • kazan
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    Rynhart won't be happy with a "moderate".Banno

    She's hardhearted and thick skinned enough to handle that minor detail.
    Taylor and Price will have to plot better for next time. And a next time there will be. Just how soon is the question.

    smile
  • Wayfarer
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    Geez this Albert Namatjira Price has tickets on herself. Glad her party is going to be in the wilderness for the next decade or so.
  • Banno
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    Jacinta?

    Many contradictions. But her maiden speech is worth a read..

    and it's not as if what we are doing on indigenous issues is working.
  • Wayfarer
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    It's her obvious thirst for power that bugs me. My comment was made in respose to her saying yesterday that 'the Australian people would love to see her as PM.' (I was thinking of posting a gif of a pole-vaulter who's pole breaks in lift-off - does happen - as a comment on her sudden defection to the Liberal Party in the hope of becoming Deputy Leader of the Opposition. But couldn't be bothered.)
  • Banno
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    So worst case would be Rynhart funding her? It might make for dramatic viewing. Supose they were to take the Liberals further into conservative-using-liberal-memes territory... would they win votes?

    I think they both overestimate their influence and understanding of Australian voters.
  • Wayfarer
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    Rinehart's living in Trump la-la land. She's utterly besotted with the Donald, no idea of the Australian electorate per se. She and all the Sky News commentators will be all crying into their beers for a long time to come.
  • Banno
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    Sure. But there is an (un)natural match between Rinehart and Price.
  • Wayfarer
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    As Paul Keating would observe from time to time, 'the dogs bark. The caravan moves on.'
  • kazan
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    Geez this Albert Namatjira Price has tickets on herself. Glad her party is going to be in the wilderness for the next decade or so.Wayfarer

    Depends on which party she tries out next?

    Sure. But there is an (un)natural match between Rinehart and Price.Banno

    Like between the farmer section of the Nats and the trade union section of Labor. Not being a smartarse either. Just lateral thinking across traditional presumptions in areas of economics, environment, wage structure, transport, retail and the city / rural divide.. amongst others.

    (I was thinking of posting a gif of a pole-vaulter who's pole breaks in lift-off - does happen - as a comment on her sudden defection to the Liberal Party in the hope of becoming Deputy Leader of the Opposition. But couldn't be bothered.)Wayfarer

    Sounds like a possible paper comic.

    'the dogs bark.Wayfarer

    Bjelke Petersen's press statements...."feeding the chooks". In reference to giving the press a purpose.



    smile
  • Tom Storm
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    Bjelke Petersen's press statements...."feeding the chooks". In reference to giving the press a purpose.kazan

    I think the expression is richer than that. It suggests that providing the press (those ravenous, dumb birds) justifications and prevarications is analogous to a ritualistically conducted feeding frenzy.
  • kazan
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    I think the expression is richer than that. It suggests that providing the press (those ravenous, dumb birds) justifications and prevarications is analogous to a ritualistically conducted feeding frenzy.Tom Storm

    Absolutely agree to BP's intention of directing or creating a feeding frenzy, but as unsubtle as he was, he knew that always giving the press something to cluck ( Keating's bark) about after he met with them, kept his govt on the front pages of the parochial Qld papers, in preference to other states' and federal issues/ political parties..And that once that feeding frenzy went off the boil, he would have something else to get the next frenzy fired up about...the caravan would have moved on to another feeding frenzy ground. Get the intervals moving fast and short enough, and no great depth of each issue would have time been spent exploring.

    Just one interpretation, of course.

    smile
  • kazan
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    Waters as Green's leader, not Hanson - Young. Mmmh! Let's see how that works from a "difference that women bring to politics" point of view. Not intending a sexist comment, just don't prescribe to the "women are so different to men in how they get things done" argument often trotted out to justify equal representation of the sexes in organizations, but still acknowledging the existence of the glass ceiling in many organizations currently.

    smile
  • Wayfarer
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    I don't think the Australian Greens are going to exercise much influence in this Parliament. I notice that Larrisa Waters said she intends to work constructively with Government, which is probably a better choice than the blatant obstructonism and grandstanding of the Greens in the previous Parliament. (I also think Hanson Young was quite happy to remain manager of business rather than leader, which is a far more taxing job.)
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