• Shawn
    13.2k
    Sorry to bother the mods or administrators; but, ever since ChatGPT came out I heard whispers that forum databases are being sold. So, the information from forum databases can be utilized for large data training models from what I minutely understand.

    Is this forum safe from this new trend?

    Thanks.
  • Shawn
    13.2k
    I tried reading the terms of service (TOS) at the left hand side of the site, and from what I understand PlushForums and the location of this server is located in Ireland. So, from what I understand Irish laws are pretty strict about the content of this forum.

    The only reason I bring this up is because there's another forum that harvests posts of users for profit (which I wont identify). Forum content on a database can be worth a lot.

    Sorry for the hassle for asking this.
  • Vera Mont
    4.3k
    Forum content on a database can be worth a lot.Shawn
    To whom? What for? I've never heard of this before. If you know more, please tell.
  • Banno
    25.1k
    Your immortal soul is indentured to @Jamal for eternity on posting.
  • Vera Mont
    4.3k

    that's fine, as long as he's not making a profit.
  • Shawn
    13.2k


    All I can say is that I doubt it's happening here. Servers located in the US for forums can do this as much as they want...
  • Wayfarer
    22.7k
    Forum content on a database can be worth a lot.Shawn

    Really? Where do I sell?

    In any case, once it's posted, it's published, to all intents and purposes, in that anyone can read the posts here, even if only registered members can enter them.
  • Michael
    15.6k
    Well, this is a publicly visible forum so nothing stops ChatGPT from visiting the website and copying what shows on the page.

    It's possible to stop this by creating a robots.txt file that tells ChatGPT that it's not allowed to visit, but PlushForums doesn't provide such a file.

    As for the raw database, the PlushForums FAQ says "we do not sell or share your data with any third parties."
  • Jamal
    9.7k
    What @Michael said.
  • Metaphysician Undercover
    13.2k
    My posts are invaluable... so good luck trying to get money for them.
  • RogueAI
    2.9k
    I like the idea I'm molding future versions of Ai's. Maybe idealism will get a boost.
  • Vera Mont
    4.3k
    And they'll write better stories.
  • javi2541997
    5.8k
    I would feel very ashamed of myself if ChatGPT had access to read my posts with poor grammatical skills.
  • Ludwig V
    1.7k
    I would feel very ashamed of myself if ChatGPT had access to read my posts with poor grammatical skills.javi2541997

    It has occurred to me to wonder why anyone trains these machines on text that has not been vetted for grammatical and other errors. (My bugbear is typos). The results could be, let's say, interesting.

    Just another reason for treating their output with immense caution.
  • Christoffer
    2.1k
    Well, this is a publicly visible forum so nothing stops ChatGPT from visiting the website and copying what shows on the page.

    It's possible to stop this by creating a robots.txt file that tells ChatGPT that it's not allowed to visit, but PlushForums doesn't provide such a file.

    As for the raw database, the PlushForums FAQ says "we do not sell or share your data with any third parties."
    Michael

    A kind of backdoor way into the collective body of work of philosophy; you get your ideas actually swooped up to be part of something larger. That's not all doom and gloom. I easily take pride in if my ideas are worth spreading, regardless of being credited or not. Won't matter in a hundred years anyway, only the ideas will remain, and if mine contribute to that body of knowledge then I won't just die off after only having been a decade going resource-soaking methane-leaking meatbag.

    But would be nice if GPT get its quotation algorithm working. It's basically the only requirement to bypass the problems with accidental plagiarism and would credit people if ideas from here spread into the usage with AI systems.
  • mcdoodle
    1.1k
    It seems there has been large-scale bypassing of the constraints placed on scraping material by using robots.txt.

    Reuters link here.
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