It's aliens. Late in the year 2025, Donald Trump, through manifest incompetence, started a nuclear war that destroyed much of the earth. Aliens have arrived to try to set about some solutions in order to change history and avoid the conflict.

It's aliens. Late in the year 2025, Donald Trump, through manifest incompetence, started a nuclear war that destroyed much of the earth. Aliens have arrived to try to set about some solutions in order to change history and avoid the conflict. — Tom Storm

They don't want to be disturbed, you see, so it's less about us, more about not blowing up their home and/or terrarium :joke:

I would be interested in the drones being captured by helicopters and studied afterwards.

Ok, get out your tin foil hats.

What are these increased drone sightings across the world about? Russia, China, US? — schopenhauer1

My guess is that the US itself is training the use of mass drone attacks and also looking at how it's crucial airspace around places like Norfolk could be attacked. Because they don't want to say "We are training our mass drone attack -system", then they opt this kind of "secrecy". Major US installations are great training ground for major Chinese installations. Add there the evident bureaucracy in the US defence system and you can indeed have the thing that the bases themselves haven't been informed about them. When it's then "back to normal", then it's the most likely reason.

- Drone warfare, as can be seen in Ukraine, has become mainstream.
- Coordinated drone attacks have been done Saudi Oil installations and also against Israel.
- In the US, Posse Comitatus act makes the shooting down of just loitering civilan drones questionable.
- People do fly drones around.
- now that you can get a news story about drone sightings, you get news stories about drone sightings. Just like you can get now news stories of Russian military aircraft flying over the Baltic Sea here.

That's my five cents on the matter.

Then why all the talk of UAPs if we know they are actually UAS? I'd like to loop you into the other discussion because that one is a broader one as if you look at the OP, I think a lot of the broader public discussion on this started in mid-November when Luis Elizondo and others in House Congressional hearing testified under oath that they had information on UFO retrieval programs, reverse-engineering, etc. Now this is one of three things to my estimation:
1) A crackpot with fabrications created from a massive liar who apparently isn't afraid of being prosecuted if he was found to be lying to Congress under oath. Or at the least someone willing to accept highly speculative fabrications as real (though he claims I believe first hand information).


2) An approved asset who is spreading disinformation about UFOs (UAPs) and alleged NHI (non-human intelligence), to get Congress and the public distracted while they add money for current drone technology, and as a cover to get people guessing if they see more of these drones.

3) He has some validity to his testimony.

Again, for reference, go to that other thread and watch the videos and read the OP. Here is the thread:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/15651/epistemology-of-ufos/p1

I think it's quite different when you have obvious drones flying around and the F/A-18 pilots tracking objects that basically defy our current flight envelopes of traditional aircraft. There's even a thread I think about the UFOs in PF that was started earlier than your thread: see UFOs, which already discussed these topics two years ago after the Congressional testimonies. What is notable was also the interviews with the Navy pilots as previously pilots didn't dare to speak openly about the encounters from fear of being labelled as being nuts.

I wouldn't group the two discussions together. But that's just my viewpoint.

I live near the US airbase in Norfolk U.K. on the night when the drones were flying above us here there was a lot of military aircraft activity. While in the media there were just a handful of reports of unknown drone activity around airbases, then it went quiet.
This suggests two things;
It’s being played down, a security blackout.
The drones weren’t being shot down even though with the number of aircraft up there I would expect even one or two to be shot down. Again media blackout.

I would go with SSU’s suggestion, manoeuvres testing of military hardware. Or it’s the Ruski’s and it’s being kept quiet.

Considering the increasing use of drones in the conflicts in Ukraine and Palestine, it has dawned on me that this is the future of warfare. There I was thinking there would be armies of robots fighting wars, when in fact it will be swarms of drones.

Cool thanks for sharing the old thread. I guess I just shrugged off that as background news previously and was more taken aback by it this second round. It looks like you are right, the exact same conversation is taking place, with all the questions and skepticism. I this post had some good remarks:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/813411

Have to put this on a thread about "Drones across the World": :joke:

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