Epistemology and ontology are the same thing in two words. — Constance
Hmm. But is it in the constructions? Or is it in the Organism providing both the infrastructure and feedback? — ENOAH
Except ontology qua what ontology purports to pursue, Being. That, if pursued to its end, is not knowing, but being. How does this require any logical assessment? Ontology pursues the nature, ultimately, of being [itself]. How better to pursue being than by turning away from making and believing (including but not limited to all philosophy) and just being? — ENOAH
To speak the word "construction' or "organism" is a construction. — Constance
Every time inquiry goes as deep as it can go it encounters the language that produces the thought that is inquiry itself — Constance
Structures of thought itself are not analyzable once thought is reduced to logicality simpliciter and so the existentialist finds herself just staring unproductively at nothing in search for being. — Constance
he knew what he was doing and why. Most interesting test for the nature of agency, the "who" one is. — Constance
Cloud of Unknowing, — Constance
to reduce that life to the transcendental constituting experience of the world that was concealed by the apperception of the human — Constance
I stop, and bring the whole of productive thought to a halt, and turn thought into an indeterminacy by removing the certainty of the affirmation that goes unchallenged in the thinking. — Constance
ah, yes, you do agree.But then, this indeterminacy, conceived as indeterminacy is a new thought construction itself, a — Constance
rather dramtatic impasse as the regression never stops, — Constance
Caputo in his Prayers and Tears of Derrida that is complicated, but worth the read. — Constance
language" never leaves perception for us — Constance
This has to be pondered, you know, cup there, brain here....errrr, explain — Constance
physicality say about this relation? It says there are two separate localities — Constance
And so, in response to your "turning away from making and believing" in discussing being, this would entail the physicalist position, the treating of subjective states as independent of the observed — Constance
You and I REALLY ARE in a world and our problems and their entanglements are real. What is NOT real is that which belongs to the interpretative error made as a matter of the habits of the race, as Kierkegaard put it. — Constance
And here we are 1000 yrs later still believing our first intelligent mushroom induced fantasies. — Gingethinkerrr
I hold that religion actually has a foundation discoverable in the essential conditions of our existence. — Constance
Could the essence not be a result of our evolutionary make up. — Gingethinkerrr
Therefore, the need eventually arose for religious scripture to appear which contains a copy in human language of the biologically preprogrammed rules that humans should not break and that government should never overrule. — Tarskian
Fitra or fitrah (Arabic: فِطْرَة; ALA-LC: fiṭrah) is an Arabic word that means 'original disposition', 'natural constitution' or 'innate nature'. The concept somewhat resembles natural order in philosophy, although there are considerable differences as well. In Islam, fitra is the innate human nature that recognizes the oneness of God (tawhid). It may entail either the state of purity and innocence in which Muslims believe all humans to be born, or the ability to choose or reject God's guidance.
But why do you think that maps against biology? — Wayfarer
Whenever a behavior is universal throughout history and throughout the world, it can only be biological. — Tarskian
But I don’t know if on that basis you could say that language is biological feature — Wayfarer
studying it through the perspective biology would be more suitable than through, say, linguistics or anthropology. — Wayfarer
It doesn’t need to be invalidated. It’s simply irrelevant, even if it is the case. — Wayfarer
Spolsky's law: All non-trivial abstractions, to some degree, are leaky.
Do you think Muslims would agree that ‘fitrah’ is a biological drive? — Wayfarer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instinct
Instinct is the inherent inclination of a living organism towards a particular complex behaviour, containing innate (inborn) elements.
For example, people may be able to modify a stimulated fixed action pattern by consciously recognizing the point of its activation and simply stop doing it, whereas animals without a sufficiently strong volitional capacity may not be able to disengage from their fixed action patterns, once activated.
Do Muslims believe that it’s biological firmware? Or doesn’t it matter whether they believe it? — Wayfarer
If that’s so, you should be able to provide a citation. — Wayfarer
Quran 30:30 (Ar-Rum): So be steadfast in faith in all uprightness ˹O Prophet˺—the natural Way of Allah which He has instilled in ˹all˺ people. Let there be no change in this creation of Allah. That is the Straight Way, but most people do not know.
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