• Varde
    326
    Knowing, believing- wisdom, sense, want- is all experience the nervous system and neuro-transmission?

    Do we attribute value elsewhere, for some magnitude of pleasure is present?

    Knowing for example is just some feeling of the nervous system and mental pattern generated by neuro-transmitters. However, we attribute value elsewhere. For knowledge, understood data(it's definition), etc.

    Perhaps this is because of pleasure, it's pleasurable to be a part of experience. It seems realistic (though it could be a trick of the mind; such as a illusion in a 2D image) and I take pleasure from it's reality- is pleasure is key to mind?

    However, is pleasure targetable? Is the tree we sense, a tree, or part of total experience(oneness, experience as one thing)? If it is reduced to nervous system and neuro-transmission, can anything experienced be completely real? Does believing require imagination?
  • Wayfarer
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    Knowing for example is just some feeling of the nervous system and mental pattern generated by neuro-transmitters….Varde

    …if you’re a lizard…..
  • Varde
    326
    you don't agree. Why if we're lizards? I'm a little confused at what I wrote anyway...
  • Cuthbert
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    I'm a little confused at what I wrote anyway...Varde

    Not too much. When we experience something, specific events happen in our bodies and brains. I think you are asking: Is our experience identical with those events?

    Then you are wondering: If the answer to the first question is 'yes', then can we experience anything other than events happening in our bodies and brains?

    I happen to think that the answer to the first is 'no' and to the second is 'question doesn't make sense'. But there are arguments on both sides.
  • Varde
    326
    I think you are asking: Is our experience identical with those events? — Cuthbert

    Definitely what I'm asking.

    You provided the answer 'no', which I also believe.

    I suggested that what our experience is, is a seismic pleasurable "magnitude"(for no use of a better term)- but heck do I know I've only stumbled on the idea earlier.
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