• Punshhh
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    Now is the time for him to step up to the plate, as the US is on the brink of war. But he seems to be hiding.
  • universeness
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    Comb your f****** hair BOJO you look like a clown! Ken Dodd (if he were still alive) would complain you are trying to steal his act. Now shove that tickling stick right up your....... and RESIGN!
    Oh! :naughty: My conscience is expressing its true feelings again.
  • Wayfarer
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    I read that he is tendering his resignation but will be hanging around for a couple of months until they sort out his replacement. That'll be kind of awkward, I imagine. He obviously and plainly had to go, but having the UK government in crisis can't be a good thing given the general stress, turmoil and instability in world affairs at this particular moment in history.
  • unenlightened
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    having the UK government in crisis can't be a good thingWayfarer

    It isn't a good thing, and it has been going on for a long time. When one cannot believe anything the government says, one literally has no government, and that has been the situation for 2 years. The pretence of government continues for another month or two...
  • unenlightened
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    My suspicion though is that the Conservative Party will change its rules to rapidly come up with a new leader. Tom Tugendhat or more likely Ben Wallace would be my tips.
  • Jack Cummins
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    I just thought I would share my little story. When I was on the tube yesterday a man got on who looked so much Boris. When someone was reading a newspaper with Boris on the cover, I just couldn't resist saying,
    'He looks a bit like you. Do you ever get taken for him?'
    He told me that he often does and it seemed that at times he finds it rather difficult. But, he is slimmer and less a look alike than one who looks like Ed Sheeran.

    The man discussed the mess of British politics and during the conversation I remembered that it is voting day, because it is a local election in London today. However, I am telling myself that I should go and vote but feel tempted not to do so because the various leaders don't see to represent much hope for change in any positive sense.
  • Cuthbert
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    I'll go with nominative suggestivism. Tom Tugendhat was a Swedish Bauhaus architect. Benjamin Wallace was a nineteenth century chemist and Ben Wallace won bronze in 220m in 1962.

    'Twas brexit and the tory coves
    Did may and leadsome in the waab
    All rees-mogg were the michael goves
    And the dominics out-raab.
  • Jack Cummins
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    When I wrote my post earlier I had not looked at the news and seen that Boris is resigning. I wondered why a thread on Boris had popped up, but it is dramatic and may be England with no potential effective leader is a metaphorical representation of Britain at the moment.
    .
  • 180 Proof
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    The #1 UK Trumpist resigns. God Save the Queens! :victory:

    "He's resigned but he hasn't fucked-off?"
  • universeness
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    :rofl: What a brilliant and accurate rant! An excellent clip. I like this guy, I hope he's a socialist.
  • Tom Storm
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    However, I am telling myself that I should go and vote but feel tempted not to do so because the various leaders don't see to represent much hope for change in any positive sense.Jack Cummins

    Voting is more like harm minimization these days. At least try to keep the least bad motherfuckers from getting in. Hopelessness and catastrophizing only rewards the fascists.
  • 180 Proof
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    Voting is more like harm minimization these days. At least try to keep the least bad motherfuckers from getting in. Hopelessness and catastrophizing only rewards the fascists.Tom Storm
    :mask: :up:
  • BC
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    Which war was / is that?

    Bojo was aware that Chrisp Incher had groped two men while "incredibly drunk" and didn't do anything about it. Seems sort of reasonable. Can anyone be so drunk that their inebriation is not creditable? As for groping--rude, maybe. Depends on the gropee. Did they file criminal charges? When women are 'incredibly drunk' and end up in compromising situations, we generally excuse the woman. Why not Pincher?

    That said, may all tories rot in hell--gay, straight. groped, or grappled.
  • BC
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    The evil of the always lesser choice.
  • Wayfarer
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    at least the British had the common sense to forcibly eject a pathological liar from the highest office.
  • Tom Storm
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    Was this because he was lying or was this because his lying no longer worked for the vested groups he represented?
  • Wayfarer
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    I was drawing a contrast with what's happening in the US. There, an entire section of the populace and large media groups are getting behind Trump's lies and actively supporting them. I think the fact that Johnson has been ejected from office testifies to the basic common sense of the British. Wish the yanks had more of it.

    That SMH OP I posted makes some important points - Johnson was elected in a massive landslide and was hugely popular, especially among a lot of traditionally Labor seats. Obviously he's a pathological liar and fails the test of character, but I think those facts about him also need to be acknowledged.
  • Tom Storm
    9.2k
    I understood that perfectly. And the point is relevant to Trump whose lying still appears to suit the Republicans and their base, whereas the Tories no longer have a use for Boris's lying. The salient fact being that lying only seems to matters in politics when it ceases to be defendable or of instrumental use.
  • Wayfarer
    22.8k
    Johnson's lies were more matters of expedience, I feel, whereas Trump's lies are much more calculated. And also I think Trump is genuinely delusional, like, he can't differentiate what is a lie and what isn't, while Johnson's is a more common-or-garden variety of mendacity. And I don't know if the Tories ever really bought into that aspect of Johnson's character, more like they just turned a blind eye to it when he was winning - more fool them.
  • jgill
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    And the point is relevant to Trump whose lying still appears to suit the Republicans and their base,Tom Storm

    Not really. He has split the GOP, and now I think I saw a poll indicating at least 50% of them are more or less anti-Trump. But it's a sad state of affairs.
  • Tom Storm
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    He has split the GOP, and now I think I saw a poll indicating at least 50% of them are more or less anti-Trump.jgill

    Well, that's a bit of good news despite the sadness around it.

    But 50% still means Trump can hold on. Boris was struggling to get 5%
  • Wayfarer
    22.8k
    CNN compares Johnson and Trump

    ‘ Britain's Conservatives just did what America's Republicans never dared to do.’

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/07/politics/donald-trump-boris-johnson-analysis/index.html
  • Benkei
    7.8k
    Why does a US-centric interpretation not surprise me?
  • universeness
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    That said, may all tories rot in hell--gay, straight. groped, or grappled.Bitter Crank

    I second that emotion and I will also back up one of the issues you raised. In my younger days, almost every time I wore a kilt to an event some woman or group of women would come up from behind and lift up the back of my kilt to see if I was a 'true Scot.' Double standards or what?
    My own admission must also be that I did not mind at all if I thought the woman doing the lifting was attractive! Still, it's sooooooo true that I would be simply arrested and charged with sexual assault If I lifted up the back of women's skirts to see if they were wearing any underwear!!!!!
  • universeness
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    Was this because he was lying or was this because his lying no longer worked for the vested groups he represented?Tom Storm

    I do genuinely think authority is scared of 'people power' or even 'the mob' in the UK.
    Even a rich and powerful individual can be destroyed in the public domain.
    I know the 'big picture' of social forces in the UK are very complicated and often contain a great deal of 'vested interest' and sometime a force of change can contain the strangest of bedfellows. Crazy combinations such as atheists and theists working in common cause against a vile political policy such as sending asylum seekers to Rwanda. Sometimes the nefarious trip over each other so much that they all become vulnerable to an ever watching free press (or at least the few good honest reporters which do exist) and the wonderful antinefarious weapon that is the 'whistleblower.'
  • Wayfarer
    22.8k
    Quote of the week

    “The sinking ship is leaving the rat.” - UK Labour Opposition Leader Keir Starmer on the conservative mutiny.
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