On the basis of liking the gods and not liking them? — EugeneW
Deference is to much. — EugeneW
No, you know I am a fan EugeneW but I am moving towards the opinion that you are naturally mischievous.
You have a good sense of humour but there is a darker side I think.
I think you like the role of Devil's advocate. You may be a leg puller, a windup merchant.
Your theism could well be almost a caricature of theists you have encountered in your past.
You have no religion, — universeness
You have no deference to your god(s). You demonstrate none of the expected theistic behaviors, you merely CLAIM to believe in god(s) but you don't exemplify personal behaviors in support of your claim. — universeness
I am therefore left with the thought that you are role-playing/caricaturing, because you get a buzz out of mixing your empirical scientist/theist incompatibility. It may even be a pre-meditated act to caricature communication with god(s) to show how evanhellicals, for example, earn their money.
You may even be doing this subconsciously, without truly realising it.
You will probably claim this is just psychobabble on my part but I am not so sure. — universeness
I think you like the role of Devil's advocate. You may be a leg puller, a windup merchant. — universeness
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F****** heaven is actually a pretty good description!
I think though that your view of gods is pretty subjective here! With such a god (God!) I can understand turning atheist! — EugeneW
How can a message from the gods be premeditated? — EugeneW
I think you like the role of Devil's advocate. You may be a leg puller, a windup merchant.
— universeness
Now here you might be right! Though I dont believe in the devil — EugeneW
instead of where it should come from, in my opinion, their humanism. — universeness
That about does it for me EugeneW. I can no longer take your claim to be a theist seriously. — universeness
Why? — EugeneW
This shows your unconscious fear of god! — EugeneW
That about does it for me EugeneW. I can no longer take your claim to be a theist seriously. — universeness
I don't take gods seriously too. But they give meaning to our existence and the universe. — EugeneW
Because humans should care about other humans because we are all humans and we can decide that it should be so, we don't need a god fable to provide our moral code or our ethics. — universeness
total BS. Why would I fear that which does not exist? — universeness
Perhaps for you, if you say so but then you are a leg puller, a windup merchant by your own admission so.......:naughty: — universeness
Why should you fear something that does exist? — EugeneW
They dont want us to behave in any morally prescribed way. They dont want us to believe in them. — EugeneW
What meaning has life without them? And I dont mean loving your fellow men or being happy walking in the park with my dog. — EugeneW
What?? Lions exist, do you fancy a one-on-one fight with one?
Your fists and legs against its teeth and claws? No fear of such eh?
Samson is also a fable — universeness
What non-existent beings want has no relevance at all — universeness
How about 'to pursue knowledge — universeness
I mean: why should you fear gods? — EugeneW
That's not how it works, as well you know, (take off that windup merchant hat now and then), your hypothesis has not currently progressed from the posit stage. Your 'faith' in it has limited currency value.What's the use of that? Or better, the meaning? I already know how the universe works. So? No big deal... — EugeneW
What's the use of that? Or better, the meaning? — EugeneW
That's not how it works, as well you know, (take off that windup merchant hat now and then), your hypothesis has not currently progressed from the posit stage. Your 'faith' in it has limited currency value. — universeness
I know it's true. And it fits exactly the universe needed by the gods. It was a huge effort. The whole of the godkind was involved in finding the right two particles and the space for them to exist eternally and over and over again (where did I hear that before). The particles of love and hate evolving in the almost infinite scala of beings, organisms, creatures.
Why should you be afraid of such gods? — EugeneW
By doing so we can give more meaning and purpose to the Universe, instead of assigning such a responsibility to a nonexistent supernatural — universeness
Let's try to reduce the amount of repetition between us. — universeness
By doing so we can give more meaning and purpose to the Universe — universeness
You do the same: in the name of some universal non-existing being, the hydra universa. — EugeneW
It's useless. You don't believe they are there. Whatever rows your boat. I know they're there.. — EugeneW
No I don't — universeness
Your theism just gnaws at you more due to your more, in my opinion. impetuous and mischievous nature. — universeness
Why should we do that? What meaning and purpose does She demand of you? — EugeneW
Atheist pano talk. On the same level as ordinary theist panto talk used by jehova freaks. — EugeneW
Never forget Gregory the religious peddlers that will preach to you about the rewards you will receive AFTER YOU ARE DEAD!
Meantime you must comply with their instruction based on the claim that they are gods messengers.
Commandment number 1, their prime directive is your responsibility to support them, maintain their status/wealth/positions of power and be willing to give up your life in defense of them.
Also, you must donate some of your earnings to them, even if doing so means a poorer life for you and your family. Don't concern yourself with that! Your reward and your family's rewards will happen in f****** heaven! — universeness
impetuous and mischievous nature — universeness
Fair enough, if that's how you feel — universeness
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