It was the first to achieve political power — Banno

No it wasn't. Every religion(from the very first one) used and achieved political power. They are combined. And humans always used religions for other "purposes". Taking advantage of them.

It wasn't Christianity's privilege at all. It just seems that you find Christianity especially "guilty" for every humanity harm. It has to do with religions in general and not at all with Christianity itself.

Christianity got there first. It's a consequence of the intolerance inherent in monotheism. — Banno

You're just angry at the Christian right.

Was Marin Luther King JR intolerant??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King_Jr.

C'mon. :roll: MLK, Jr was not a theocrat and never wielded state power.

My mistake.

Here's an article about religious toleration. link

The problem is in the imbalance of powers. If Christianity/secular humanism is tolerant towards Islam, Muslims would feel empowered to throw acid on girls.
So the best solution would be to be intolerant of the intolerant and keep those animals behind a wall. — stoicHoneyBadger

MLK preached tolerance!

was the first to achieve political power, in late Rome, and to unleash the logical consequence of monotheism - the repression of alternatives. — Banno

Your position is that prior to Christianity, there were no oppressive regimes, but that oppression began as the result of monotheism? That's just obviously historucally false. Egypt is one example among many.

Christianity in the fourth and fifth century went out of its way to destroy temples and burn books; not just religious texts but all philosophical texts. It closed down the great philosophical schools in Alexandria and Athens, martyring not just Hypatia but others. Books were burned gleefully in the town square. Thousand-year old masterpieces were smashed and disfigured.

Something in the order of ninety percent of classical literature was destroyed in that period.

Christianity was the first of the Abrahamic monotheistic religion to achieve large scale political power. It immediately started persecution of non-Christians. Monotheism is an inherently intolerant doctrine.

Them's the facts.

Your position is that prior to Christianity, there were no oppressive regimes, but that oppression began as the result of monotheism? That's just obviously historucally false. Egypt is one example among many. — Hanover

Tell me the story about intolerance in Egypt. Let's take a look. Who persecuted who?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Egypt

Christianity was the first of the Abrahamic monotheistic religion to achieve large scale political power. It immediately started persecution of non-Christians. Monotheism is an inherently intolerant doctrine.

Them's the facts. — Banno

:up:

Why slavery? What do you wish me to see?

Why slavery? What do you wish me to see? — Banno

Who persecuted who? — Banno

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Egypt — Hanover

Passover!

You've lost me. Where did this slavery involve religious persecution?

https://www.vox.com/2014/8/5/18001980/what-is-the-passover-story

A link is not an argument - nor even a claim. What do you want me to see here?

Egypt is one example among many. — Hanover

I had taken you to be referring to Amenhotep.

He abolished the worship of the traditional gods and promulgated the sun disk, the Aten, and changed his name to Akhenaten, which means ‘Beneficial to the Aten’. He sent his agents up and down the land, armed with their chisels to expunge the names of all the traditional gods from the temples and other monuments that bore their names.

Hmm. Looks to be supporting my contention rather than refuting it.

In the Jewish religion, the story of Passover talks about Egyptian slavery of the Jews. I was attempting to explain Hanover's post. I am sorry for not making an argument.

Was Marin Luther King JR intolerant?? — Wheatley

SO the argument here is; King was tolerant; hence all Christians are tolerant?

No, merely that some Christians are very tolerant people.

Cheers. The jews were not tolerated because they would not accept the other gods - isn't that it? that is, because they were intolerant.

Yep. Yet the reason we have so little classical literature is that it was not tolerated by the Christians of the later Roman period, nor the Byzantines.

The jews were not tolerated — Banno

By who?

The Egyptians - that was your story, no? Set my people free and all that. I dunno - I'm trying to address an argument that has so far not been presented.

Ok, whatever. My point stands.

Ok, whatever. My point stands. — Banno

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t just seems that you find Christianity especially "guilty" for every humanity harm. — dimosthenis9

I find it often dishonest. I also think it presumes a morality it has often not demonstrated.

all Christians — Banno

I find it disingenuous to group "all Christians" together. There are a lot of subsets of Christianity.

Sure; but the point stands.

Sure; but the point stands. — Banno

It's hard to follow your point when you didn't even bother to quote the OP!

There's very little of the works of the ancient Stoics that now exist,
— Ciceronianus

And this because of the active repression of Stoic ideas by Christians - the tragedy of their rise is the destruction of the literature and art of antiquity.

Sigh. — Banno

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