• 180 Proof
    14k
    :up: Yeah, sistren!
  • Olivier5
    6.2k
    Life is a masquerade.

  • Olivier5
    6.2k
    If I understand well, this is a mash up of two songs... one by Cindy Lauper, the other by Whitney Houston.


  • Olivier5
    6.2k
    Here's a little song I wrote
    You might want to sing it note for note
    Don't worry, be happy
    In every life we have some trouble
    But when you worry you make it double

    Don't worry, be happy

    Ain't got no place to lay your head
    Somebody came and took your bed
    Don't worry, be happy
    The landlord say your rent is late
    He may have to litigate
    Don't worry, be happy

    Oh, ooh ooh ooh oo-ooh ooh oo-ooh don't worry, be happy

    Here I give you my phone number, when you worry, call me, I'll make you happy.

    Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style
    Ain't got no gal to make you smile
    Don't worry, be happy
    'Cause when you worry your face will frown
    And that will bring everybody down

    So don't worry, be happy

    Now there, is this song I wrote
    I hope you learned note for note
    Like good little children, don't worry, be happy
    Now listen to what I said, in your life expect some trouble
    When you worry you make it double
    But don't worry, be happy, be happy now

  • Amity
    4.6k

    Wonderful find.
    And then this came along - their cover of Supertramp's 'The Logical Song'.
    Love it :cool:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U8TYyG6QPQE

    When I was young, it seemed that life was so wonderful
    A miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical
    And all the birds in the trees, well they'd be singing so happily
    Oh joyfully, playfully watching me
    But then they send me away to teach me how to be sensible
    Logical, oh responsible, practical
    And they showed me a world where I could be so dependable
    Oh clinical, oh intellectual, cynical

    There are times when all the world's asleep
    The questions run too deep
    For such a simple man
    Won't you please, please tell me what we've learned
    I know it sounds absurd
    Please tell me who I am

    I said, watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical
    Liberal, oh fanatical, criminal
    Won't you sign up your name, we'd like to feel you're acceptable
    Respectable, oh presentable,…

    Source: LyricFind
  • Amity
    4.6k

    Brilliant. You can pick 'em :starstruck:
    And if you can't be happy, wear a smile, even if it is a mask :mask:
    Unfortunately - with covid restrictions we can only see smiling eyes, if we are lucky.

    Cause when you worry your face will frown
    And that will bring everybody down
    Olivier5

    Not to mention you'll get a deep track line in the middle of your forehead :angry:
  • Amity
    4.6k
    Another one
    'Dreams' - Fleetwood Mac // Sam Wilkes ft. POMPLAMOOSE
    Wow !

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y3ztWQm577Q

    Now here you go again, you say you want your freedom
    Well, who am I to keep you down?
    It's only right that you should play the way you feel it
    But listen carefully to the sound of your loneliness

    Like a heartbeat drives you mad
    In the stillness of remembering what you had
    And what you lost
    And what you had
    And what you lost

    Oh, thunder only happens when it's raining
    Players only love you when they're playing
    Say, women, they will come and they will go
    When the rain washes you clean, you'll know
    You'll know

    Now here I go again, I see the crystal visions
    I keep my visions to myself
    It's only me who wants to wrap around your dreams
    And have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
    Dreams of loneliness

    Like a heartbeat drives you mad
    In the stillness of remembering what you had
    And what you lost
    And what you had
    Oh, what you lost

    Thunder only happens when it's raining
    Players only love you when they're playing
    Women, they will come and they will go
    When the rain washes you clean, you'll know

    Oh, thunder only happens when it's raining
    Players only love you when they're playing
    Say, women, they will come and they will go
    When the rain washes you clean, you'll know
    You'll know
    You will know
    Oh, you'll know

    Source: Musixmatch

    Songwriters: Stevie Nicks

    Dreams lyrics © Welsh Witch Music
  • 180 Proof
    14k

    [ D ]

    Long distance runner,
    what you standin' there for?
    Get up, get out,
    get out of the door

    Your playin' cold music
    on the barroom floor
    Drowned in your laughter
    and dead to the core.

    There's a dragon with matches
    that's loose on the town
    Takes a whole pail of water
    just to cool him down.

    Fire! Fire on the mountain!

    Almost ablaze
    still you don't feel the heat
    It takes all you got
    just to stay on the beat.
    You say it's a livin',
    we all gotta eat
    But you're here alone,
    there's no one to compete.
    If Mercy's a bus'ness,
    I wish it for you
    More than just ashes
    when your dreams come true.

    Fire! Fire on the mountain!

    Long distance runner,
    what you holdin' out for?
    Caught in slow motion
    in a dash for the door.
    The flame from your stage
    has now spread to the floor

    You gave all you had.
    Why you wanna give more?
    The more that you give,
    the more it will take

    To the thin line beyond which
    you really can't fake.

    Fire! Fire on the mountain!

    "Fire on the Mountain" (3:46)
    Shakedown Street, 1978
    written by M. Hart & R. Hunter, 1977
    The Greatful Dead

    *



    There's a natural mystic blowing
    through the air
    If you listen carefully now
    you will hear

    This could be the first trumpet,
    might as well be the last
    Many more will have to suffer
    Many more will have to die
    Don't ask me why
    Things are not the way they used to be
    I won't tell no lie

    One and all got to face
    reality now
    Though I've tried to find the answer
    to all the questions they ask

    Though I know it's impossible
    to go living through the past
    Don't tell no lie

    There's a natural mystic blowing
    through the air
    Can't keep them down
    If you listen carefully now
    you will hear

    Such a natural mystic,
    blowing through the air

    This could be the first trumpet,
    might as well be the last
    Many more will have to suffer
    Many more will have to die
    Don't ask me why

    There's a natural mystic blowing through the air
    I won't tell no lie
    If you listen carefully now
    you will hear
    There's a natural mystic blowing through the air

    Such a natural mystic
    blowing through the air
    There's a natural mystic
    blowing through the air
    Such a natural mystic
    blowing through the air
    Such a natural mystic
    blowing through the air
    Such a natural mystic
    blowing through the air

    "Natural Mystic" (3:28)
    Exodus, 1977
    Bob Marley & the Wailers

    *


    [ L ]


    We turn away to face the cold, enduring chill
    As the day begs the night for mercy love
    The sun so bright it leaves no shadows
    Only scars
    carved into stone
    On the face of earth
    The moon is up and
    over One Tree Hill
    We see the sun
    go down
    in your eyes

    You run
    like river,
    on like a sea
    You run like a river runs to the sea

    And in the world a heart of darkness
    A fire zone
    Where poets speak their heart
    Then bleed for it
    Jara sang, his song a weapon
    In the hands of love
    You know his blood
    still
    cries
    From the ground

    It runs like a river runs to the sea
    It runs like a river to the sea

    I don't believe in painted roses
    Or bleeding hearts
    While bullets rape the night
    of the merciful
    I'll see you again
    When the stars fall from the sky
    And the moon has turned red
    Over One Tree Hill

    We run like a river
    Runs to the sea
    We run
    like a river
    to the sea
    And when it's raining
    Raining hard
    That's when the rain will
    Break my heart


    Raining...raining in the heart
    Raining in your heart
    Raining...raining to your heart
    Raining, raining...raining
    Raining to your heart
    Raining...raining in your heart
    Raining in your heart..
    To the sea

    Oh great ocean
    Oh great sea
    Run to the ocean
    Run to the sea

    "One Tree Hill" (5:23)
    The Joshua Tree, 1987
    U2

    *

    [ for Laurie & Desiree, back in the day, who broke each other's heart on the way to both breaking off a heavy piece of mine ]
  • Amity
    4.6k
    Listening to this - on the other music thread :scream:
    https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/523208

    'Wind of Change' - Scorpions (with the Berliner Philharmoniker )

    Thanks to @Ying :sparkle:
  • Amity
    4.6k

    U2 :cool:

    [ for Laurie & Desiree, back in the day, who broke each other's heart on the way to both breaking off a heavy piece of mine ]180 Proof

    :broken:
    ???
  • 180 Proof
    14k
    Yeah, reminiscences from the '80s that wouldn't let me sleep off my buzz last weekend. Between day hikes (flâneurie), my exorcist recommends ... Bartók & Ellington :smirk:
  • Olivier5
    6.2k
    Me, myself and I
    Are all in love with you
    We all think you're wonderful
    We do

    Me, myself and I
    Have just one point of view
    We're convinced
    There's no one else like you

    It can't be denied dear
    You brought the sun to us
    We'd be satisfied dear
    If you'd belong to one of us

    So if you pass me by
    Three hearts will break in two
    'Cause me, myself and I
    Are all in love with you
    We all think you're wonderful
    We do

  • Olivier5
    6.2k
    Thanks. This posting was prompted by

    How did Descartes know that he was alone in his mind? Why not "We think, therefore we are."? ... How much confusion in philosophy results from reifying the 'I' which we learn to use in ordinary life?j0e

    Me, myself and I do like Lady Day: we always use the "royal we".
  • Amity
    4.6k

    'We all think you're wonderful. We do' :cool:

    'Me, myself and I' - reminds me of George Harrison's autobiography 'I - Me- Mine'.
    I bought it some time ago and think a revisit is in order *
    I didn't realise that the book title was also one of his songs:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seqaTuXkqFI

    ...it was the last new track recorded by the band before their break-up in April 1970. The song originated from their January 1969 rehearsals at Twickenham Film Studios when they were considering making a return to live performance. Written at a time of acrimony within the group, the lyrics lament humankind's propensity for self-centredness and serve as a comment on the discord that led to Harrison temporarily leaving the Beatles. The musical arrangement alternates between waltz-time verses and choruses played in the hard rock style.wiki

    * as well as his story, it includes photographs, lists of songs, some with handwritten lyrics and a paragraph of explanation.

    I, ME, MINE is the 'ego' problem...suddenly I looked around and everything I could see was relative to my ego...I hated everything about my ego...it was a flash of everything false and impermanent which I disliked. But later, I learned from it: to realise that there is somebody else in there apart from old blabbermouth. Who am 'I' became the order of the day.

    Anyway, that's what came out of it: I Me Mine..
    Allen Klein thought it was an Italian song - you know, Cara Mia Mine but it's about the ego: the eternal problem... (p158).
    — George Harrison

    OK, so i couldn't resist the look-up:

    'Cara Mia' - Jay & The Americans
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sFy5_kmEi4
  • j0e
    443
    Me, myself and I do like Lady Day: we always use the "royal we".Olivier5

    :grin: :grin: :grin:
  • Olivier5
    6.2k
    I Me Mine is a great entry on the subject, thanks.


    All through the day
    I me mine, I me mine, I me mine
    All through the night
    I me mine, I me mine, I me mine
    Now they're frightened of leaving it
    Everyone's weaving it
    Coming on strong all the time
    All through the day

    I me mine
    I me me mine, etc.

    All I can hear
    I me mine, I me mine, I me mine
    Even those tears
    I me mine, I me mine, I me mine
    No-one's frightened of playing it
    Everyone's saying it
    Flowing more freely than wine
    All through the day

    I me mine
    I me me mine, etc.

    All I can hear
    I me mine, I me mine, I me mine
    Even those tears
    I me mine, I me mine, I me mine
    No-one's frightened of playing it
    Everyone's saying it
    Flowing more freely than wine
    All through your life
    I me mine
  • Amity
    4.6k

    Thanks for providing the lyrics. And for the theme as inspired by @j0e :sparkle:

    'See Yourself' - George Harrison
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6byTftvSQyo

    "See Yourself"

    It's easier to tell a lie than it is to tell the truth
    It's easier to kill a fly than it is to turn it loose
    It's easier to criticize somebody else
    Than to see yourself

    It's easier to give a sigh and be like all the rest
    Who stand around and crucify you while you do your best
    It's easier to see the books upon the shelf
    Than to see yourself

    It's easier to hurt someone and make them cry
    Than it is to dry their eyes
    I got tired of fooling around with other people's lies
    Rather I'd find someone that's true

    It's easier to say you won't than it is to feel you can
    It's easier to drag your feet than it is to be a man
    It's easier to look at someone else's wealth
    Than to see yourself
  • Olivier5
    6.2k
    Now that is deep.
  • Olivier5
    6.2k
    As an aside, note that the use of 'they', speaking of oneself, is spreading in the language, which points to the idea that the unity of the mind is not always a given.
  • j0e
    443
    As an aside, note that the use of 'they', speaking of oneself, is spreading in the language, which points to the idea that the unity of the mind is not always a given.Olivier5

    While the intention is seemingly to avoid gender, it does accidentally work against the unity of the mind in a subtle way. I should clarify that I'm not against the unity of the mind or for the plurality of mind in a spiritual/ethical sense. For me it's just a good example, maybe the best, of a metaphysical presupposition, if we even want to call something so typically automatic a presupposition. In the Blue Book thread, there's a killer Wittgenstein passage about this. Locke also thought about this in a less radical but related way. What is a person, and how does this connect with memory and language?
  • 180 Proof
    14k
    Ah, but no link to the last track, finished at the last session, on the last album:

    :victory:

    "I, Me, Mine" (2:26)
    Let It Be, 1970
    written by George Harrison, 1969
    The Beatles

    (Fab, gear! Not the least bit grotty :smirk:)
  • Amity
    4.6k

    but no link to the last track,180 Proof

    ? I did enter a link - not quite as cool as yours :cool:
    ... and then found this one:
    look out for John and Yoko waltzing - from film 'Let It Be' *
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnwmrAMqA6c

    finished at the last session, on the last album:180 Proof
    Yes, I didn't realise that at the time...
    but did remember the roof top - apparently it was an unannounced concert - the last public performance of the Beatles,1970.

    'All Those Years Ago' - George Harrison ( dedicated to John Lennon )
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBpvLTM1LK8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UI0mWnh_zk

    "All Those Years Ago"

    I'm shouting all about love
    While they treated you like a dog
    When you were the one who had made it so clear
    All those years ago

    I'm talking all about how to give
    They don't act with much honesty
    But you point the way to the truth when you say
    All you need is love


    Living with good and bad
    I've always looked up to you
    Now we're left cold and sad
    By someone the devil's best friend
    Someone who offended all

    We're living in a bad dream
    They've forgotten all about mankind
    And you were the one they backed up to the wall
    All those years ago
    You were the one who Imagined it all
    All those years ago


    Deep in the darkest night
    I send out a prayer to you
    Now in the world of light
    Where the spirit free of the lies
    And all else that we despised

    They've forgotten all about God
    He's the only reason we exist
    Yet you were the one that they said was so weird
    All those years ago
    You said it all though not many had ears
    All those years ago
    You had control of our smiles and our tears
    All those years ago
  • Amity
    4.6k
    'Imagine' - John Lennon (with lyrics)

    https://vimeo.com/421928389
  • Amity
    4.6k
    'All You Need is Love'- The Beatles ( written by John Lennon)

    https://vimeo.com/252765355

    The song was Britain's contribution to Our World, the first live global television link, for which the band were filmed performing it at EMI Studios in London on 25 June [1967].The programme was broadcast via satellite and seen by an audience of over 400 million in 25 countries.
    Lennon's lyrics were deliberately simplistic, to allow for the show's international audience, and captured the utopian ideals associated with the Summer of Love.
    wiki

    All You Need Is Love
    The Beatles
    Love, love, love
    Love, love, love
    Love, love, love

    (Love, love, love)
    There's nothing you can do that can't be done
    (Love, love, love)
    Nothing you can sing that can't be sung
    (Love, love, love)
    Nothing you can say
    But you can learn how to play the game
    It's easy

    (Love, love, love)
    Nothing you can make that can't be made
    (Love, love, love)
    No one you can save that can't be saved
    (Love, love, love)
    Nothing you can do
    But you can learn how to be you in time
    It's easy

    All you need is love
    All you need is love
    All you need is love, love
    Love is all you need

    (Love, love, love)
    (Love, love, love)
    (Love, love, love)

    All you need is love
    All you need is love
    All you need is love, love
    Love is all you need

    (Love, love, love)
    Nothing you can know that isn't known
    (Love, love, love)
    Nothing you can see that isn't shown
    (Love, love, love)
    There's nowhere you can be
    That isn't where you're meant to be
    It's easy

    All you need is love
    All you need is love
    All you need is love, love
    Love is all you need

    All you need is love (All together now)
    All you need is love (Everybody)
    All you need is love, love
    Love is all you need

    Love is all you need
    (Love is all you need)
    Love is all you need
    (Love is all you need)
    Love is all you need
    (Love is all you need)
    Love is all you need
    (Love is all you need)

    Love is all you need
    (Love is all you need)
    Love is all you need
    (Love is all you need)
    Love is all you need
    (Love is all you need)
    Love is all you need
    (Love is all you need)

    Love is all you need
    (Love is all you need)
    Love is all you need
    (Love is all you need)
    Love is all you need
    (Love is all you need)
    (Love is all you need)
    (Love is all you need)

    (Love is all you need) Yesterday
    (Love is all you need) Oh, love is all you need
    Love is all you need (Oh yeah)
    Love is all you need (She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah)
    (She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah)
    (Love is all you need)
    (Love is all you need)

    Songwriters: Lennon John Winston, Mccartney Paul James
    For non-commercial use only.
    Data from: Musixmatch
  • 180 Proof
    14k


    A haunting reply to "All You Need is Love" almost exactly a year later ...



    It's been a long
    long
    long time
    How could I ever
    have lost you
    When I
    loved you

    It took a long
    long
    long
    time
    Now I'm so happy
    I found you
    How I
    love you

    So many tears I was searching
    So many tears I was wasting, oh oh

    Now I can see you,
    be you
    How can I ever
    misplace you
    How I
    want you
    Oh I
    love you
    You know that I need you
    Ooh I
    love you

    Ohhhhhhh

    "Long, Long, Long" (3:04)
    The Beatles, 1968
    written by George Harrison
    The Beatles
  • Olivier5
    6.2k
    For me it's just a good example, maybe the best, of a metaphysical presupposition, if we even want to call something so typically automatic a presupposition.j0e

    Yes, it's a good example of what Collingwood called an absolute presupposition, although you are right that it looks more basic. Perhaps Kant's a priori is a better way to look at it, like our sense of space and time?
  • j0e
    443
    Perhaps Kant's a priori is a better way to look at it, like our sense of space and time?Olivier5

    I would say that it has that Kantian flavor except that in my imperfect understanding of Kant is that it's too contingent. We can imagine more than one person per skull. The philosopher Robert C. Solomon used (don't think invented) the phrase methodological solipsism for something like the Cartesian starting point. I think of it as a research habit that was fruitful in many ways but also leads to certain confusions and dead ends (well criticized by various 20th century philosophers.)

    We might also consider how Kant's work is endangered or not by dropping MS or at least by recognizing it as a contingent decision. Philosophers could have worked from the outside in rather than from the inside out, or many other ways.
  • Amity
    4.6k
    A haunting reply to "All You Need is Love" almost exactly a year later ...180 Proof

    Haunting and a wee bit weird at the end.
    From p132 of GH's autobiography:

    'The 'you' in Long, Long, Long is God. I can't recall much about it except the chords which I think were coming from Sad Eyed Lady of the Low Land - D to E minor, A and D - those 3 chords and the way they moved.
    There was a bottle of 'Blue Nun' wine on top of the Leslie speaker and when our Paul hit some organ note the Leslie started vibrating and the bottle rattling. You can hear it on the record - at the very end.'


    'Blue Nun' and whatever else they were taking - I think the bottle rattling set George and Ringo off on a trip where they just let rip. That howl from George... :scream:

    'Sad-Eyed Lady of the Low Lands' - Bob Dylan
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c1NJPCN6nA

    Lyrics:
    https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/bobdylan/sadeyedladyofthelowlands.html
  • 180 Proof
    14k
    50 years ago the Stones dropped this juvenile piece of nasty work, which nonetheless is a Rock-n-Roll masterpiece (covered by Little Richard no less). Other than civil rights activists at the time (like Jessie Jackson), I can't recall other recording artists such as Stevie Wonder, Sly Stone, Marvin Gaye, Isaac Hayes, Aretha Franklin, Ray Charles, Billie Preston, Ike & Tina Turner, Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Roberta Flack, Bill Withers, George Clinton, Chaka Khan, Muddy Waters et al complaining that this offensive paean to 'slavery heroin rape cougars & cunnilingus' had offended them. Yo, have some sympathy and some taste ... :fire:



    Gold coast slave ship bound for cotton fields
    Sold in a market down in New Orleans
    Scarred old slaver knows he's doing alright
    Hear him whip the women just around midnight


    [ ... ]

    Drums beating, cold English blood runs hot
    Lady of the house wonderin' where it's gonna stop
    House boy knows that he's doing alright
    You shoulda heard him just around midnight


    [ ... ]

    How come you taste so good?

    "Brown Sugar" (3:50)
    Sticky Fingers, 1971
    The Rolling Stones

    ( https://youtu.be/8fAzIxGPLN8the B side! )

    *



    (Meanwhile uptown the DJ play
    Oldies but good as I seh:
    "Them belly full but we hungry
    A rain a fall but de dirt is tough
    A yaka yuk but a you nah nuff")


    Dem a dance to de riddim of the sufferah
    Dem a dance to forget

    Dem dance me no fret
    Dem a sing dem a sing, man ...

    "De System" (2:54)
    Check It!, 1983
    Mutabaruka
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