• Gregory
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    In Luke 9:60 Jesus said "Let the dead bury their own", apparently saying we should disrespect the dead. In Luke 14:26 he tells his disciples to "hate" their family members and in Matthew 10:34-42 he said he came to bring violence.Gregory

    I should add that he also said God had abandoned him
  • baker
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    Honey, they are perfectly okay with you burning in hell for all eternity. They don't care what you think of them.
  • Sam26
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    Many Christians believe that there is strong evidence to support the conclusion that Jesus rose physically from the dead. What do you think?
  • Gregory
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    Ye they are nerdy werdo's with a homo fetish for Jim Caviezel
  • Gregory
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    Phlegon’s second century Book of Marvels is interesting. It reveals a lot about the mentality of ancient times. Miracles have been claimed in every religion, society, and region. Writing about miracles was a form of story telling in that age and religion has primarily that function in society. Oddly, even the Illiad speaks of actions of "the gods". And Asclepius was the Greek God known for resurrecting the dead. Putting monotheism as a pedestal doesn't really change the fact that Christian literature is the same in genre as other writings on ancient history. You go through the Gospels, saying yes to every story while saying no to every miracle. Christians read it like it's a divine novel and that's the reason that method of reading doesn't make sense to them. They want it to be true. Maybe the world needed a crazy "story of mercy" 2000 years ago, as Jordan Peterson sorta argues. That's why it was successful. Not because it was true
  • Gregory
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    Holy sites throughout the middle ages each had its own legend of how it had the foreskin (and sometimes umbilical cord) of Jesus and why it had been preserved by Mary, given to an apostle, and past down. Protestants want to accept Gospel miracles but none of the Marian miracles by the way. Why not reject of the above!

    Also, Hypatia is an interesting case of a figure who's story was latter changed into a story about Christian martyr with an almost identical story line. Legends change

    Lastly, here are many examples like the following (I come across these all the time now that my radar for them is up): doctors practice their skills at medicine to get a profession, but only then are they said to have a practice. Isn't that strange language? If I see a barber shop that says "Kelly's shop", we here in American society know there likely is no "Kelly" but instead it's just a title for the place. But if an archaeologist in the future saw this, he would assume the closest Kelly who lived in the vicinity owned that barber shop. So that's just more reasoning on how interpreting ancient texts is very uncertain.
  • Relativist
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    C.S. Lewis trilemma depends on the assumption that the Gospels (particularly John) accurately convey things Jesus actually said about himself. If you believe this, you're a Christian - no point complicating the matter. Seems to give Christians a false sense of security, somewhat like Habernas' minimal facts "proof" of the Resurrection.
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