The only way in hell I’d vote for 4 more years of MAGAt-land, is as a potential strategy to possibly clear the way for a Progressive surge. — 0 thru 9

Let's do a clearly better or clearly worse comparison (emphasis on clearly), B/H and predecessors. Starting with Truman. You decide. — tim wood

Vanilla is all there is. And vanilla is a) actually pretty good, and b) has potential with add-ins.

I do not think Biden is good for eight years. He may even not be good for one. Harris as president? That does not seem a necessarily bad thing to me. And we know you wanted strawberry, but that's not an option. — tim wood

get over yourself, grow up, vote for Biden-Harris — tim wood

if you care as you claim to — tim wood

It seems increasingly likely that, after 4 more years of Trump, there will not be another election that deserves the name. — Echarmion

. Rather because the powers that be in the GOP seem to have decided that now is as good a time as any to do away with having to deal with the opinions of poor people. — Echarmion

I didn’t claim to care. — 0 thru 9

So why ought any of us care what you think? — creativesoul

At least act like to understand Bernie... seeing how you claim to be a supporter. Clearly you do not grasp what he has stood for all these years.

You wanna know what to do. Ask Bernie. — creativesoul

So, if you can be arsed... please try to convince me not to mail in a blank ballot with a dead fish wrapped inside, if there’s any mailboxes left. — 0 thru 9

You doing nothing else than making one day more miserable to some postal workers who likely will get fired after the elections with sending that dead fish. And you are also waisting the calories that you or your cat (or your neighbors cat) might have gotten from eating that fish, so even the fish goes to waste. — ssu

Just stop thinking that YOU HAVE TO vote for one or the other duopoly parties. Genuinely look if there is a third party you think reeks less than the two ruling parties and vote for them. Voting simply improves the health of your representative government. — ssu

The basic problem is that Americans believe as if a God-like President would somehow descend into the White House and somehow create change with everything else in the representative system being in control with the two corrupt parties.

It won't work. Never will. But every Presidential candidate will surely say that they, as President, will surely change things! — ssu

The basic problem is that Americans believe as if a God-like President would somehow descend into the White House and somehow create change with everything else in the representative system being in control with the two corrupt parties.

It won't work. Never will. But every Presidential candidate will surely say that they, as President, will surely change things! — ssu

The only way, hard but can happen surprisingly quickly, is to work through the representative system (in the way it is designed to work) starting from the municipal level, then the state level and finally through the national level from Capitol Hill, not the White House. The US President cannot do anything else than bomb some miserable Third World country. Anything else he basically has to go through the House and the Senate. So that's your Presidency. — ssu

But do vote, that's the important thing. — ssu

2. If you're concerned about the balance of power, vote Democrat for president, and Republican for house or senate. — Philosophim

I think you're over complicating the issue. — Philosophim

1. Doesn't have to be 8 years of Biden/Harris. You can just make it 4 — Philosophim

If you don't make a choice, you have no skin in the game. — Philosophim

You sound like you don't like others telling you what to do. — Philosophim

Vote for the lesser evil if you find no positives. — Philosophim

Otherwise you may end up with what you know in your heart is the greater evil, and and have to deal with that for the next four years. — Philosophim

I've wondered how "lesser evil efficacy" would measure against "evil gridlock." — Kevin