Conan and Van Jones discuss what comes next:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/n7wbxk/confederate-statues-and-other-symbols-of-racism-all-over-the-country-were-destroyed-by-protesters-this-weekend

"Confederate statues in Birmingham and Richmond. A former slave market in North Carolina. The national headquarters for a Civil War revisionist group. These were just some of the monuments and buildings symbolizing centuries of systemic racism in America that were hit during the weekend’s protests, following the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis on May 25. "

Fuck yeah property destruction.

Yes, absolutely, those need to go. :clap:

So here's a fun fact I learnt. After MLK was assasinated, the US was hit by the biggest and most violent riots since the civil war. There were uprisings in nearly every major American city - at least 100 of them. Dozens of people were killed, property was destroyed en masse, and violence skyrocketed. Six days later the Civil Rights Act of 1968 was passed, because LBJ and the rest of the government were shitting their pants.

Anyone moaning about violent protest not solving problems can go fuck off a bridge and never come back.

Peaceful Protesters Were Gassed Outside The White House So Trump Could Get A Photo Op At A Church

"I am the president of law and order, and an ally of all peaceful protesters," the president said as police gassed and confronted peaceful protesters just yards away.

And people like this guy. :roll:

Tea Party was part of that. — frank

It's helpful to remember that the crates of tea thrown into Boston Harbor were a large, valuable shipment -- about a year's worth of tea drinking for Boston and surrounding area -- and worth million$ (a rough calculation into today's money).

Another thing:

I would discourage anyone from thinking that the riots will lead to a new day of good feeling. Probably not. It's also unlikely that the least well-heeled of riot victims (the small shop and restaurant owners) will just pick up where they were on May 24th. Many commercial strips damaged in past riots required a decade to be restored, and in some cases (like Lawndale in Chicago damaged in 1968 riots) have never recovered.

There's no guarantee that branches of large companies (Target, food chains, Walgreens...) will be promptly reopened. Most probably will be, if they have a good probability of being profitable.

So what does that mean. When a black man is killed by police the entire planet reacts and is thrown into chaos. Literal worldwide riots and chaos.

Meanwhile a white woman is sodomized by police on the side of the road, few people freak out online for a few days, and it's forgotten about.

Both on video.

I guess what I'm asking is if you were president, with unilateral authority, what would you do and why?

Why the fuck are you asking me and not your leaders?

Twitter has just suspended antifa's US account lol...you leftists still love Twitter now? — Chester

Is this what you're referring to?

Twitter suspends fake antifa account tied to white nationalists

Twitter said Monday that it has suspended an account named "ANTIFA_US" which it says was tied to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa.

...

"This account violated our platform manipulation and spam policy, specifically the creation of fake accounts," a Twitter representative told Axios. "We took action after the account sent a Tweet inciting violence and broke the Twitter Rules."

Yeah, I'm cool with that.

:rofl:

Didn't know that. Awesome.

Antifa is going down, it will be proscribed. If you can't see the writing on the wall then you must be blind.

if you were president, with unilateral authority — Outlander

Fortunately Trump doesn't have all the unilateral authority he thinks he has. He has too much as it is. Donald: Please S T F U !!!!!

Now that is the kind of violence that is warranted.

Antifa is going down, it will be proscribed. — Chester

What kind of government would ban anti-fascists? Maybe, I dunno, the kind that starts with an F...

Look , let's get this straight...the events in America will back-fire badly on the political left. People have seen what you stand for, they have seen what you would do to their cities. By the way have you noticed that the original homicide happened in a city run by the left?

Are you in Minneapolis?

This guy nails it on several fronts:

But they are not antifascists ...just because the Nazis had "socialist" in their name...come on, get with the program.

There's no guarantee that branches of large companies (Target, food chains, Walgreens...) will be promptly reopened. Most probably will be, if they have a good probability of being profitable. — Bitter Crank

Right. The riots could push us closer toward a deeper recession?

Anyone can call themselves "antifa". It's not an organized group with a membership roster. It's just a word that means "anti-fascist". If someone who is not anti-fascist calls themselves "antifa", they're just straight up lying.

The left always over plays its hand, every fucking time. You saw it in the States when they thought they'd beat Trump, we saw it in the UK when they thought they'd keep us in the EU, we saw it at the last UK election when the Labour party got utterly smashed. And here now you are over-playing the racism card all over again.

Mark my words, you have failed yet again.

Hillary a leftist? What a joke. Go away Chester, and educate yourself.

That organisation has been hijacked ...anarchists, communists ...you name it , all the filth has gravitated there.

The left always over plays its hand, every fucking time. You saw it in the States when they thought they'd beat Trump, we saw it in the UK when they thought they'd keep us in the EU, we saw it at the last UK election when the Labour party got utterly smashed. And here now you are over-playing the racism card all over again.

Mark my words, you have failed yet again. — Chester

If you're referring to having failed to achieve certain outcomes, sure. The more conservative politicians are the ones in power right now.

But not withstanding who's winning, I'd still argue that liberal principles and policies are better than conservative ones.

She represented the only mainstream leftish party in the US that stood a chance of beating the republicans.

Democrats are centre-right, and Hillary is a corporate rat whom every leftist despises with a passion.

It's not an organization. That's the point.

You may as well talk about "that notorious hacker Anonymous".

If you have a far right party and a centre right party, you don't have a leftist or leftish party. It's just that you have a reference frame where anything right of fascism is experienced as left.

I don't agree. Conservative ideas are generally backed by tradition, which means they have stood the test of time ...but are still open to gradual change as the situation and knowledge changes. liberals flounce from one unthought through idea to the next...leaving misery in their wake.

So you think the Democrats are right-wing?

Misery is traditional. Historically, almost everyone is always miserable. Except for the tiny ruling class, who are the ones that conservatism invariably protects, by keeping things however they are to support whoever is already in power.