Be you a Christian or not, could I have your overall thoughts and judgement of Yahweh/Jesus based on if you see him living by the Golden Rule? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Since you're asking about characters in a book, why not read the book to find out? Because any departure from that is a discussion on the level of whether Aquaman can beat Spiderman. — tim wood
Most Christians seem to think so as they say that Yahweh/Jesus can do no evil. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Does Yahweh/Jesus live by the Golden Rule?
Most Christians seem to think so as they say that Yahweh/Jesus can do no evil.
We could look at all the commandments and laws but that might have us taking off in too many directions so I thought the Golden Rule might be a good starting point as it encompasses many of the commandments.
Most, I hope, start their moral thinking by some variant of the Golden Rule, a reciprocity rule, so I think we can all relate to some degree in judging Yahweh/Jesus.
Christians are told in scriptures to judge all things. Most Christians have judged Yahweh/Jesus and I wondered if others had as well.
Be you a Christian or not, could I have your overall thoughts and judgement of Yahweh/Jesus based on if you see him living by the Golden Rule?
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
The way I heard it, the devil thought it worth having a three way tempt of Jesus in the desert. — unenlightened
But Jesus the idea, Jesus the direction, Jesus the imaginary friend, is another matter. — unenlightened
The root of the Golden Rule is empathy — TheMadFool
Care to opine on this as it is what the O.P. is all about? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
A small point but biologists seen to see the selfish gene creating all our reactions. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
the question asks if he lives by the Golden Rule that he preached. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I saw nothing to argue in your views.
I see this quote as close but not quite getting to the root.
I think we are pushed by our selfish gene which creates our empathy and altruism.
A small point but biologists seen to see the selfish gene creating all our reactions.
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
then it shouldn't be able to explain everything — TheMadFool
The notion of a selfish gene is unsettling. — TheMadFool
Pfffft. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
I've seen Jesus spelled as Yeshua...but "Yahweh" is the name of Abraham's god. — Frank Apisa
1. Altruism is meaningful and not an illusion and is contradictory to selfishness
2. The selfish gene theory is believed to explain both selfishness and altruism. This is an inconsistency isn't it? — TheMadFool
No it is not.
Our selfish gene will do whatever it selfishly want to maintain life.
Our selfish gene defaults to cooperation, as that is the best survival strategy, and it includes altruism and empathy towards others.
Ifr selfish, I will try to make friends, given that we are all tribal by nature, and that means being nice to others which is when our altruism and empathy come out.
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
If reproduction is about selfish genes then, these genes must persist through generations which they do not. — TheMadFool
I suggest not talking on this forum again and seeing a psychotherapist. — ernestm
The way I heard it, the devil thought it worth having a three way tempt of Jesus in the desert. And he resisted. He could have done evil, but he didn't. — unenlightened
Reproducing is a part of selfishness, sure, but survival comes first and given that there are old around, the DNA lasts long enough.
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
it doesn't make sense for life to act selfish towards the nonliving. — TheMadFool
I agree.
Who did such a stupid thing?
As to DNA. They are what genes are made of so there was no changing goal posts.
The information encoded in it, to you, does not last long yet science has shown that it goes from generation to generation, and in some instances, skips a generation, to pop up in the next.
You have not kept up my friend.
But that aside, if you do not see the great instincts we have with our selfishness, what do you think our prime directive from our instincts are, if not be selfish?
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
there simply is nothing that persists to which we may impute selfishness. — TheMadFool
Yet we are all born with that instinct.
So you have no other suggestion as to our prime directive, and will ignore the perfect logic that our DNA gives us to survive as a selfish prime directive.
You are a science denier without even a substitute theory. You have hit a blank wall and just keep on doing the same thing.
Regards
DL — Gnostic Christian Bishop
There's a difference, no? Altruism is real, no? — TheMadFool
Matt. 22: 37-19? In any case you have something you call "the golden rule." As for whether Jesus's actions comport with that is a research problem the answer to which found in the aforementioned book and to my knowledge no other.Actually it wouldn't help, because I looked into this so-called 'golden rule' thing, and I can't find any evidence it existed at the time of Jehovah and Jesus, lol. — ernestm
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