Trump knows that telling a lie or something crazy (like 100 000 dead is a good job) works. — ssu
China has concealed the extent of the coronavirus outbreak in its country, under-reporting both total cases and deaths it’s suffered from the disease, the U.S. intelligence community concluded in a classified report to the White House, according to three U.S. officials.
The officials asked not to be identified because the report is secret, and they declined to detail its contents. But the thrust, they said, is that China’s public reporting on cases and deaths is intentionally incomplete. Two of the officials said the report concludes that China’s numbers are fake.
It's a good prediction...if you still have some states open and without a serious lock-down as you already have lost the containment phase and aren't prepared for it. Something equivalent to other OECD countries would be good.The epidemologist experts are predicting 200,000. I would say half of that is a good job. What number would you, in your apparent infinite wisdom, call a good job? — Nobeernolife
By looking at other countries that had their eye on the ball. 20,000 is still generous. — Benkei
You might be interested in this, frank. I think we discussed South Korea before. — Baden
And why do you call Trump a cunt for having actually more foresight that his political rivals, who downplayed the Corona threat well into February? — Nobeernolife
Well, you have those travel bans, right? Even for China it may be difficult to hide hundred thousand deaths (hundreds or thousands, yes). Actually Trump's great fan, the Brazilian president Bolsonaro is quite open about that he simply doesn't like the numbers either (as the Chinese).We know the CCP suppressed and coerced its own doctors in the typical bureaucratic form of Communist parties throughout history, but now US intelligence is saying they are faking their numbers, which could prove disastrous. — NOS4A2
Bolsonaro said that in the state of Sao Paulo, Brazi's economic powerhouse, the death toll seemed “too large.” Sao Paulo has the most cases and deaths so far of coronavirus in Brazil, at 1,223 cases and 68 deaths. “We need to look at what is happening there, this cannot be a numbers game to favor political interests,” Bolsonaro said.
Italy has now 218 deaths per million. South Korea 3 per million. Now the US is at 14 per million. Now to have the similar death rate as Italy now would mean 71 940 deaths. So that will give you roughly the ball park where 100 000 deaths is. — ssu
So really, what foresight are you on about, Trumpanzee? — Benkei
which was that masks work and that a critical difference between the West's response and the East's response (and their clearly different results) was that the East wore masks. — Hanover
The pandemic in Italy isn't contained yet. So there is that issue as now it's just really starting in the USWell, you would have to take that up with the epidemologists who came up with the 200.000 figure. I am pretty sure Trump did not do the math himself. — Nobeernolife
I've mentioned it few times on the thread. It will surely be interesting to see as this will be something that experts will be looking at later.Sweden is an interesting case as they have avoided going full authoritarian and is instead banking on personal responsibility idea. In due time we’ll see how this approach has faired in comparison to the lockdowns and police-states of their neighbors. — NOS4A2
It's high transmissability might be related to its long life on inanimate objects. We'll know after more research, I guess.
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