Now you want to say that the reason it's popular is because of the private aspect of it, or otherwise "people would hate it." Heads I win, tails you lose.
— Xtrix
Yes, that is exactly the case. Straight Medicare would be very unpopular. It doesn't pay enough benefits and it offers no flexibility. It's the private component that makes it work. You should do your homework on this issue. What I state is well-known fact. — fishfry
Socialism is the most brutal, dehumanizing system ever imagined. — fishfry
Medicare is a government-run program. — Xtrix
Saying I should "do my homework" is childish -- either you have an argument based on evidence, or you don't. — Xtrix
There is of course an important choice to make if what you describe is true. Do you mutualise risk across the board resulting in lower health insurance costs on average or do you mutualise per age category allowing for differentiated premiums? — Benkei
Isn't that what Medicare did already? And you've noted it but I'm not sure what your ethical position is in it. — Benkei
From a pure numbers game, the greater the group mutualising the risk the cheaper the insurance becomes. This explains why, on average, healthcare costs rose less than the years before Obamacare.
For me, policy that benefits the greatest amount of people at the least cost makes the most sense economically. Besides, young people grow old. They will benefit eventually and they can see it as paying more now so they can pay less later for coverage. So I also see a benefit at the personal level. — Benkei
Saying I should "do my homework" is childish -- either you have an argument based on evidence, or you don't.
— Xtrix
Or, as I've stated, I haven't sufficient interest in the topic of health care policy to drill down another level of detail. — fishfry
Medicare is a government-run program.
— Xtrix
Medicare is a public/private partnership. — fishfry
Of course there will be involvement with private hospitals and private insurance, to a degree. — Xtrix
You've made it clear you're not interested in learning anything "in detail," so why bother? — Xtrix
Of course there will be involvement with private hospitals and private insurance, to a degree.
— Xtrix
Those involvements are exactly what makes Medicare so popular; — fishfry
I'm actually quite knowledgable on health care policy and economics. I stated that I don't feel like talking about it right now in this thread. — fishfry
Any time you spent in my presence made you less ignorant. It was time well spent. — fishfry
You've made it clear you're not interested in learning anything "in detail," so why bother?
— Xtrix
Your reading comprehension issues noted. — fishfry
Or, as I've stated, I haven't sufficient interest in the topic of health care policy to drill down another level of detail. — fishfry
I stated that I don't feel like talking about it right now in this thread. — fishfry
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