• Echarmion
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    Read the book by Donna Laframboise who actually worked there and saw how these "reports" are compiled. It is an eye-opener.
    The IPCC is funded by politicians with the goal to promote a political agenda. If it does not produce the desired results, it loses its reason to exist.
    Nobeernolife

    Question: if Donna Laframboise wrote a book about how everything was fine with the IPCC and we should all listen to them, do you think that would sell as well as her criticism?
  • Benkei
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    She didn't work there and critises about 0.6% of the report. Meanwhile, Shell and other industry participants contributed to the report and subscribe to its findings and process. See for instance: https://reports.shell.com/annual-report/2018/strategic-report/climate-change-and-energy-transition.php

    Meanwhile raspberrylady is a nobody peddling lies.

    Climate skeptics aren't skeptic but just stupid.
  • RegularGuy
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    I wish somehow that Trump could realize that we are all God’s children and that God loves him. I know I will catch heat for this from the atheists, but you gotta admit that things would go much more civilly, peacefully, and harmoniously if he believed this equally about himself and his so-called enemies, even if only in a figurative sense.
  • Nobeernolife
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    Question: if Donna Laframboise wrote a book about how everything was fine with the IPCC and we should all listen to them, do you think that would sell as well as her criticism?Echarmion

    That would depend on the book. In the event, she writes about her experience inside the IPCC, which speak for themselves. And she is not the only one. Anyone who takes a closer look at the workings of the IPCC knows we should not take the IPCC reports as bible.
  • Nobeernolife
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    I wish somehow that Trump could realize that we are all God’s children and that God loves him.Noah Te Stroete

    Even if he suddenly believes that that all the corrupt swamp creatures who are out to get him are Gods children, I don´t see how that changes the situation he is in, so I am not sure what youre getting at. He still has to live and act in the real world, even if he prays to Yahwee 7 times a day...
  • RegularGuy
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    I think you should stop getting your news from social media. It makes it impossible to communicate when you believe all of the subversive disinformation.
  • Echarmion
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    That would depend on the book. In the event, she writes about her experience inside the IPCC, which speak for themselves. And she is not the only one.Nobeernolife

    Again evading the question. A pity. Why so scared though?

    Anyone who takes a closer look at the workings of the IPCC knows we should not take the IPCC reports as bible.Nobeernolife

    No-one has suggested we should. Unfortunately, this kind of straw-manning is all anyone ever seems to do in these discussions.
  • Deletedmemberzc
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    I wish somehow that Trump could realize that we are all God’s children and that God loves him.Noah Te Stroete

    Atheist or theist - Christian charity is the baddest penny. We can only hope Trump's (deranged-deranging) hubris presages a fall.

    It is in defeat that we become Christian. — Ernest Hemingway
  • Deletedmemberzc
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    Climate skeptics aren't skeptic but just stupid.Benkei

    Sheep in wolves' clothing howling dumbly.
  • RegularGuy
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    That is very cynical and unChristian. I am not holding my breath, and I don’t think Trump’s chances are good considering the 2018 outcome, but to insinuate that I don’t wish for him to be a better person is to completely miss the point of Christianity.
  • Deletedmemberzc
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    I only meant the post-hubris fall can bring us to our knees.

    A god can never be a Christian.
  • RegularGuy
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    I actually have a fear of an upcoming race war if Trump falls, instigated by the Neo-Nazis and other fervent Trump supporters. I am sincere about this, and I think Trump would probably welcome it.
  • Deletedmemberzc
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    I had the same fear in 2016. But the 1st anniversary of Charlottesville closed the chapter. I think the most we'll see is an uptick in Antifa-Whitey skirmishes. So many doxxed Nazis scared the undoxxed.

    In the end, Americans are too addicted to screens and fat and sugar to go urban guerilla.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite_the_Right_rally

    After Charlottesville refused to approve another march, Unite the Right held an anniversary rally on August 11–12, 2018, in Washington D.C.[32] The rally was expected to draw large protests from opposing religious organizations, civil rights groups, and anti-fascist organizers.[33][34] The rally drew only 20–30 protesters amidst thousands of counter-protestors.
  • RegularGuy
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    Yeah, maybe you’re right. The Nazi youth value PlayStation and Xbox more than they want to get their asses kicked.
  • Nobeernolife
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    No-one has suggested we should. Unfortunately, this kind of straw-manning is all anyone ever seems to do in these discussions.Echarmion

    I am glad you agree the IPCC should not be taken too seriously. So why do we argue?
  • Nobeernolife
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    I actually have a fear of an upcoming race war if Trump falls, instigated by the Neo-Nazis and other fervent Trump supporters. I am sincere about this, and I think Trump would probably welcome it.Noah Te Stroete

    Oh boy, and I thought TDS can not get more rampant.... do you even realize how bizarre rants like this sound to people who are not in your CNN echo chamber? (Rethorical question... of course you dont)
  • RegularGuy
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    Okay. It seems that you don’t trust CNN. I don’t trust social media that isn’t constrained by FCC regulations. How do we communicate?
  • NOS4A2
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    KKK and Neo-nazis have been marching for decades and decades, as is their fundamental right. It was the media, not Trump, who gave them the free press and your fears.
  • RegularGuy
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    The KKK and Nazis are terrorist organizations.
  • Nobeernolife
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    Climate skeptics aren't skeptic but just stupid.Benkei

    What exactly is a "climate sceptic"? Your rant about something you don´t define.
  • Echarmion
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    I am glad you agree the IPCC should not be taken too seriously. So why do we argue?Nobeernolife

    *yawn*
    Is that all you have to offer? Sorry, not interested.
  • NOS4A2
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    The KKK and Nazis are terrorist organizations.

    They have been marching and rallying for decades, as is their right. They were used as a bogeyman to smear Trump.
  • RegularGuy
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    Trump’s dad was KKK.
  • Nobeernolife
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    *yawn*Echarmion

    "Claims such as '2500 of the worlds leading scientists have reached a consensus that human activities are having a significant influence on the climate' are disingenious. Giving the impression that the IPCC consensus means everyone agrees with everyone else (...) is unhelpful. It does not reflect the uncertain, exploratory and sometimes contested nature of scientific knowledge."

    Mike Hulme, IPCC lead author

    .... its all very simple and clear, isn´t it.
  • NOS4A2
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    Trump’s dad was KKK.

    Yeah, I doubt it.
  • RegularGuy
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    Of course you would. I didn’t think you would acknowledge it. We don’t agree on facts. You have “alternative facts” aka fictions.
  • RegularGuy
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    That’s what I call the “news” you get on social media.
  • NOS4A2
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    Trump’s dad was KKK.

    Is this true or false? What news taught you this?
  • RegularGuy
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    My guess was that he was discharged because he didn’t get violent. He was most likely cooperative.
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