Agreed? Where even to begin? In Christian belief, I reckon St. Anselm gets there "fustest with the mostest," with his "that than which nothing greater can be conceived."Can we come to an agreed description of God, or is that just a pipe dream? — Pattern-chaser
Is there even a first word that won't be controversial? — tim wood
That being said, it is amorphous enough a concept that it will just transmute from person to person, sufficiently obscuring any attempt for people to arrive at some consensus on what it means. — rlclauer
Do please elaborate. — Shamshir
For me, the omni- stuff is unhelpful. — Pattern-chaser
Can we come to an agreed description of God, or is that just a pipe dream? — Pattern-chaser
For me, the omni- stuff is unhelpful. God is the 'shepherd' of life in the universe; we (all living things) are in Her care. Is even that an acceptable (to believers) starting point? If it is, can we add to it, and still remain in accord with the majority of believers? — Pattern-chaser
...the word "god" must imply something that words like "nature", "universe", "everything", etc do not capture. — ZhouBoTong
But did you like it? — uncanni
...the word "god" must imply something that words like "nature", "universe", "everything", etc do not capture. — ZhouBoTong
I'm in the process of coming up with a post-patriarchal, post-gendered, kabbalistic/buddhist/pagan/derridian feeling of the oneness, the echad. — uncanni
but also why it can never be still and continually has to transform and transition through the states which are probably stitched together via something like the laws of nature. — PoeticUniverse
I like to think of the cosmos as a giant womb, forever birthing and re-birthing big bangs.... — uncanni
This insistence on gendering God is a definite sign of an utter lack of understanding. — uncanni
all connected and interdependent — uncanni
women's language must disrupt and confound until men are able to tune into a different frequency and understand — uncanni
There is no stasis; there is transition. However, we humans can devolve if we don't keep learning deeply. — uncanni
There is no stasis; there is transition. — uncanni
For me, the omni- stuff is unhelpful. — Pattern-chaser
God is the 'shepherd' of life in the universe; we (all living things) are in Her care. — Pattern-chaser
St. Anselm gets there "fustest with the mostest," with his "that than which nothing greater can be conceived." — tim wood
Its existence is necessity — PoeticUniverse
Rejection of God = human violence/sadism. Absence of God = complete self-engrossment, psychopathic narcissism. Instant gratification at any cost. Because the strongest and most aggressive can. — uncanni
(I think I can wrap my puny human brain around "all powerful", but "timeless" and "limitless" are only saying what god is not, what does "timeless" mean as a trait for a being?)God is all-powerful, timeless, limitless and not bound by space, which explains how He can be everywhere at the same time. — jorgealarcon
It'll have to be acceptable to atheists, too, in a sense. If it's too vague, as the above is, then how can I even make sense of my atheism in relation to your theism? It must be clear enough, so that we know what we're talking about. — S
Vague, unconventional, subjective, arbitrary, renders theism indistinguishable from atheism. — S
I don't see how ideas like those listed above can possibly lead to any type of consensus. — ZhouBoTong
Atheists love to talk about God. But it's difficult for them, as there is no generally agreed description* of God. It's probably the case that there are as many conceptions of God as there are believers, but are there general beliefs about God that many or most of us share? Come on, let's help the atheists out, by giving them a description of God to play with.
And what's going to differentiate that sound ground from a belief?One needs to establish a sound ground first — PoeticUniverse
'God', then, seems to not intervene, or can't. — PoeticUniverse
It might be boring, but examples of workable descriptions are the ones that we're most familiar with, such as a creator of the universe, or a being which is all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good. — S
It would imply that one couldn't discern intervention from no intervention as they would be functionally the same.If God is existence of everything, did God create the laws of existence? I would say the laws are part of everything's existence. Why would/how could God intervene? It all is God. — uncanni
Beginnings and Ends are out, concerning the Everything. — PoeticUniverse
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