So no examples of narrative you claimed, without evidence, that I was regurgitating?

Here’s one from Fox News:



Earlier you wrote:

The word-policing remark actually harkens back to Orwell’s “thought policing” — NOS4A2

Like Trump, you appear to take your cues from Fox News.

When you're one of the guys, in the club, and/or part of the group... it need not be publicly pronounced. Members believe it regardless, often as a result of what's not said.

Elitism reigns supreme. Ignorant and well-educated alike. There are striking similarities in all racist thought/belief as well. One can be elitist without being racist.

One problem with Trump is his elitist mentality.

Are you seriously arguing in Trump's defense regarding charges of being one who demonstrates sociopathic thought, belief, and behaviour?

Is this a shrine, then? The number of perfection and everything? — Noble Dust

It's a cryin shaime and a crime that it's a shrine. But you can give a shiner to the enshrined- vote for Bernie this time, for shrining out loud.

G R E E N L A N D ! ! !

I would suggest to President Trump and fellow Americans the following:

First, have totally unknown armed people (calling themselves the Greenland Independence Front) seize every strategic point in Greenland and demand a referendum for the Indepence of Greenland. The armed personnel would be totally unknown: because they wouldn't have any insignia on them, so how can anybody know them? After this a referendum Greenland would quickly declare itself independent and as likely the evil colonialist Danes wouldn't like this, Independent Greenland would ask to join the United States. Then President Trump could admit them into the US of A. and protect the innocent people of Greenland from the ugly colonialist power of Denmark. To make everything nice for the people of Greenland, perhaps the US ought to give every citizen of Greenland two million dollars (that's just a puny 114 billion $) and free tickets to Disneyland Galaxy's End (I hear it hasn't been such a success) as a gesture of welcome.

Oh how historic it would be! And everybody would be OK with it!

Have you seen this glorious tweet by the president?

Actually yes.

But the advice I gave on the previous page would really be contemplated in this White House for sure. If it only was first read in Fox News. And the best thing: it would really, really, REALLY upset those woke democrats! And all the people that hate Trump supporters, like the EU. Except the friends of Trump, who would understand that the US needs to protect the people of Greenland and any independent country can voluntary join the US. What else would the Trump campaign want?

So, is anyone here an American and interested in a job in the Trump administration as the 'special advisor for Greenland'?

Not to mention the added bonus of freeing the residents from the yoke of socialism.

I’d love to be specially advisor. Given global warming, it should be prime beach property in no time.

But you aren't american

I am, actually. Born and raised. I just don’t currently live in the US.

Tell us about your beautiful Motherland.

What do you want to know, beyond what you’ve already assumed?

Who's your pick to run against Trump?

I like Warren best, but I don’t know if she has the best chance of beating Trump.

I like Bernie. I don't think he has much of a chance.

I was looking at some economic charts published in the Washington Post yesterday that show how the trade deficit is higher now than it was under the Obama administration, despite our glorious leaders stable geniusness and deal-making prowess. Another bungle and promise unmet, it appears.

Does this count as a legitimate criticism, being about economic facts and not his words, @NOS4A2?

It is, yes. See? Anyone can do it.

I thought you were going to say that his campaign promise to reduce the trade deficit was just words, and that all the self-aggrandizement about his business and deal-making prowess was just words. On that we could agree, although I would be more inclined to describe it as a con job.

It's high time to take the hook out of your mouth.

Well you are criticizing his promise and not the economy, which is doing great. So you’re still concerned with words and not actual states of affairs. But a broken promise is a broken promise.

Well you are criticizing his promise and not the economy, which is doing great. — NOS4A2

I knew it :razz: The trade deficit is a significant part of the economy, my painfully predictable friend.

Is the economy doing good or not?

Is the economy doing good or not? — NOS4A2

Compared with the Obama administration

So good? Bad?

This just in:

Trump says he is considering payroll tax cut amid economic concerns

Looks like they are worried.

The economy has done well under Trump. But that doesn't necessarily credit him for two reasons:

1) He was given an economy that was trending positive. As in when you jump on a tricycle rolling downhill, you can expect acceleration regardless of how fast you pedal. Trump is the excited little kid on the tricycle thinking the downhill slope lasts forever.

2) He ballooned the deficit to give an already advancing economy an extra shove. Good for the very short term. Awful for the long term. You're supposed to borrow when things are bad and pay the money back when they're good. Duh. Trump is the excited little kid on the tricycle pedalling madly downhill wasting every bit of energy you'll all need for the next upslope.

To summarize, you've handed your economy to some idiotic little kid on a tricycle. Brace yourself for the inevitable crash

Yes, the economy is doing great.

At least Trump didn’t require an $800 billion tax-payer funded stimulus bill to get it all going. Deregulation and tax cuts seem to be working quite well.

At least Trump didn’t require an $800 billion tax-payer funded stimulus bill to get it all going. — NOS4A2

This doesn't make any real sense because Trump inherited an economy that was already going, as Baden just pointed out.

Just looking at the unemployment rate (from the Washington Post article link to above):

Well, the types of jobs matter as well. Under Obama, most new jobs were service jobs, like consulting or toiling in restaurants.

The bottom line is: Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs, such as those in Silicon Valley and consulting. Others are the low-end jobs, toiling in stores and restaurants.

https://money.cnn.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/jobs-under-obama/

But manufacturing jobs are up under trump, not to mention wages.

In the last 30 months of President Obama’s term, manufacturing employment grew by 185,000 or 1.5%. In President Trump’s first 30 months, manufacturers added 499,000 jobs, expanding by 4.0%. In the same 30-month time span during the mature, post-recovery phase of the business cycle, some 314,000 more manufacturing jobs were added under Trump than under Obama, a 170% advantage.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/07/10/in-trumps-first-30-months-manufacturing-up-by-314000-jobs-over-obama-what-states-are-hot/#6e627b3d2677