Cowardly, silent absentee gods are not worthy gods. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
You make some sense. However my objections to this poster (who frequents other forums with the same 'questions') is nothing to do with the negligible 'contents' ( ..anybody can read up on Gnosticism..) but on the grounds that he merely engages in challenging conventional 'believers' in order to reinforce his own belief system. In other words, he contributes nothing. — fresco
That's a possible interpretation. The latter question assumes that if there is a God, then the reason God is not experienced by those God is not experienced by is that God is afraid. How do you know this must be the case?Is god a coward? Why does god fear to show himself? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Presumably you mean Mary and Jesus,here. So this is about Christianity. How do you know that is the only way God can do it? God did that, in the NT. Did I miss the part where it says that is the only way? Perhaps the idea was to go through the experience of being a human, which includes, then, the womb and the birth and, well, the mother. I don't know. How do you know the Bible means God could only do it that way?God cannot even speak or reproduce without a human female and is definitely not an all-powerful being. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
They offer a set of practices, ones that often lead to experiences that practitioners consider to be of God. Some Christians would argue that to be successful takes great time and effort. Some even spend a lot of time in retreat, in silence, in regular prayer and service and contemplation. This seems effective to many of those people. Have you tried that?To be relevant to theist, god must be real. The only way to date that that reality can be confirmed is contact at the consciousness level, yet those who claim that never offer anything worth listening to. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
They all lie? How do you know that? That seems extremely unlikely to me. I think many preachers are sincere, even if I do not share their beliefs. Here you say they all are lying. How do you know that? There are also preachers who do not take money from the people they preach to.Billions now seek that mental touch daily; yet all go wanting. All while those who lie about god, all the preachers who preach of a supernatural god, get the cash from their sheeple. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
It seems like people find use in their experiences and appreciate them. Not all, but many.Why do we create or even acknowledge such cowardly absentee and inferior demiurge gods?
Cowardly, silent absentee gods are not worthy gods. They are useless to us. — Gnostic Christian Bishop
The 'God' who is supposed to be everywhere shows up nowhere. — PoeticUniverse
Before anyone can make these claims, they must prove the existence of these gods.
Otherwise they are giving credence to the believers' ideas they are trying to demolish. — Sir2u
Hard to quote Gnostics when they believe in many odd things. — Riley
I suggest it is that is your fear — fresco
But how do we know we are doing this unless we engage in the arena of ideas? — Noah Te Stroete
but on the grounds that he merely engages in challenging conventional 'believers' in order to reinforce his own belief system. In other words, he contributes nothing. — fresco
How do you know this must be the case? — Coben
How do you know the Bible means God could only do it that way? — Coben
They offer a set of practices, ones that often lead to experiences that practitioners consider to be of God. — Coben
Have you tried that? — Coben
They all lie? How do you know that? That seems extremely unlikely to me. — Coben
It seems like people find use in their experiences and appreciate them. — Coben
All actions are physical, and god is non-physical. So he can't do anything. Which means he can't show himself.Is god a coward? Why does god fear to show himself? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
It's all hypothetical anyway, so why even care? It's not like there's any reason to genuinely believe that there's a God to begin with. — S
I conclude that your faith in your own mythology must be pretty shaky to risk being so easily demolished by a mere atheist like me ! :naughty: — fresco
All action is physical, and god is not physical. So he can't do anything. Which means he can't show himself. — Purple Pond
'Apotheosis' ........as in the declaration by Caligula of his deification to his Uncle Claudius ?
...and you think this is a viable subject for a philosophy forum ? :wink: — fresco
Yeah, that's a problem. If god is all powerful, he can do anything. But how can a non-physical god do physical things? — Purple Pond
If he did, nobody wouldn't have to have any faith as the issue simply wouldn't be about faith and religion anymore.Is god a coward? Why does god fear to show himself?
Our gods do not speak to us. Ever wonder why not? — Gnostic Christian Bishop
Is Gnostic Christian Bishop a coward? Why does he fear to get out of his mother's apartment? (Just a joke, no offense Bishop.)And then they came for the Gnostic Christian Bishops! But then they realised that there was only one, and they decided just to left him be, in his mother's basement, frantically typing up yet more of the same old hyperbolic antichristian rhetoric on his PC. — S
antichristian — S
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