Are you happy to know you will die? — Gnostic Christian Bishop

Yes. Death is the best painkiller there is.

Hi Frank,

I'm sure what you're saying makes complete sense to you just like what the Bishop is saying makes complete sense to him. Watch, I can say, "I'm an atheist" and "I'm a holy person" to the exact same effect, none. It doesn't matter how much I elaborate on either position because there is no criterion for knowing another's mental state to that degree. There's no science for it. As a matter of ongoing fact or truth, we know only one of those positions is even possibly true.

The closet I can think of in regards to "thought crime" is from the movie Minority Report where there were these "precogs" who knew what was going to happen before it happened via a psychokinetic bridge.

In my real estate finance business I spent a lot of time preparing cases & a few defenses and spent a lot of time in court. I know this is not that but the need to present legal arguments remains.

You're saying, "Say a whole bunch of stuff about your position and then put a shortcut label on it." I don't accept either. I can't know it's anyone's position or if it's their label or someone else's.

You have a nice writing style, I'm reminded by your writing that you're the guy who is over eighty years old? You might remember or know about this person, Madalyn Murray O'Hair? She claimed to be an "atheist" but she fought for her own religious rights while trying to castrate religious men for taking money. She said (in the movie I watched), "There's nowhere in the Bible where Jesus passed the plate." Well, for one, she did. She's a self-righteous, religious, hypocrite. Also, she couldn't possibly be any more biblically illiterate. Judas stole from the coffers. Luke 8 shows many women Jesus collected money from. The story of the widow and her two mites. Jesus encouraged people giving, and giving to his ministry (if you read between the lines).

A person's claim of their position is not any kind of avenue for knowing the truth. Do you really want to know the truth about me? I claim to be Messiah and have the worst addiction to porn of anyone I know. I've been making and giving away thousands of bars of soaps boasting for eight years how I don't take money, and now for this upcoming fair I've tried to collect money from about 15 different sources. Not a f*cking penny. I'm ready to quit. Everyone else is getting money. I'm either lying now or before. If we are really being honest about ourselves to others then that would be something. At least we'd be separating on good grounds.

I'm only (normally) going to tell you things about myself I believe will cause you to like me. The truth be damned. I don't lie to God haters but people I care about I shield the truth from.

In the law, every word has a very precise meaning. It's always the same in every legal context. The 'N'-word in the O.J. trial and "forfeiture by wrong doing" in the Drew Petersen case. Jodi Arias stabbed Travis Alexander 27 times and cut off his head in a premeditated jealous rage.

If someone has a special definition of words then it's impossible for me to talk to that person.

Be blessed my Friend,
Dan C

Note that it has already been established that naturalism (atheism) is based on a logical fallacy. — Daniel Cox

You have so many issues and doors open that I hardly know where to start, especially given that in philosophy, it is said that the definition of words usually happens after a more general discourse takes place with more common language and terms. You force the opposite but let's see what happens and if we can chat.

To what I quoted.
What fallacy?
I must have missed it.

Mysticism & naturalism are diametrically opposed — Daniel Cox

I disagree.

noun: mysticism
1.belief that union with or absorption into the Deity or the absolute, or the spiritual apprehension of knowledge inaccessible to the intellect, may be attained through contemplation and self-surrender.
"St. Theresa's writings were part of the tradition of Christian mysticism"

2.belief characterized by self-delusion or dreamy confusion of thought, especially when based on the assumption of occult qualities or mysterious agencies.
"there is a hint of New Age mysticism in the show's title"

Even this definitions has built in contradictions.
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Naturalism
In philosophy, naturalism is the "idea or belief that only natural (as opposed to supernatural or spiritual) laws and forces operate in the world."

Even this definition I disagree with as spiritual thinking, if not laws, do operate here.
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The above is why definitions are left to the end of a discussion.

Let's ignore most of what you put for now as we will not even get going on anything.

Let's see if we can chat on your fallacy notion and see where it goes. At least we will learn each others styles.

Regards
DL

Yes. Death is the best painkiller there is. — Purple Pond

There is that aspect for sure.

it seems that many elderly that I have known would agree.

Regards
DL

Look, I can't claim to be Messiah here. All is lost.

Look, I can't claim to be Messiah here. All is lost. — Daniel Cox

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Ok.

Regards
DL

We've been discussing "Supreme Being." That's what I'm claiming against all the rules. We're not allowed to evangelize here.

I can't make an argument for myself.

We've been discussing "Supreme Being." That's what I'm claiming against all the rules. We're not allowed to evangelize here.

I can't make an argument for myself. — Daniel Cox

Who declared you supreme, and as compared to who?

I have done what you call evangelize for Gnostic Christianity. If done in the right context, it is allowed.

Do as you like and if a mod is offended and i am not, I will back you up.

That or I can meet you at some other site of your choosing if you are not comfy here.

Regards
DL
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O.k., Friend.

Look me up on MeWe, www.mewe.com/i/danielcox25

"done in the right context," "Who made them supreme?" Exactly.

Salutations!

There is that aspect for sure.

it seems that many elderly that I have known would agree. — Gnostic Christian Bishop

That's interesting. But death wishes aren't only held by the elderly. I wanted to die since I was eleven years old. (I'm not saying this to make anyone feel about about me.)

"done in the right context," "Who made them supreme?" Exactly. — Daniel Cox

Whoever takes their cash.

Regards
DL

That's interesting. But death wishes aren't only held by the elderly. I wanted to die since I was eleven years old. (I'm not saying this to make anyone feel about about me.) — Purple Pond

They have reasons. I guess that your reason is not worthy of you acting on it, a good thing, as you are still here buddy.

Perhaps wanting to loose your cherry is what is keeping you going. ;-)
I had to throw that in there.

Regards
DL

"Whoever takes their cash."

I'm beginning to like you more every day, more than just about everyone else I know. See, part of my claim stems from being a descendant of a thousand years of Jewish Bankers. It's a little bit of an exaggeration, but we are a few centuries ahead of the Rothchilds.

I'm slightly exaggerating because a thousand years is what I'm referring to as the millennial reign. It's not enough to be really great at making money, you have to be a consummate expert at keeping it.

i/danielcox25 — Daniel Cox

I tend to get along quite well with Jews as compared to others who claim a religious affiliation.
I think that the Jews were well on their way to a moral ideology before Christianity usurped Yahweh and changed the world's perception of what he originally was.

I am pleased that you like me as I tend to speak more to theists than others and get a lot of hate thrown at me. Truth draws a lot of hate from those who do not want to hear it.

I dislike that many hate Jews. Jealousy from others has plagued you guys forever. Or at least from the time you, as a tribe, reformed from being the killers that you were when still living as nomadic shepherds. At least that is what Joseph Campbell said.

Regards
DL

To be clear, I'm only 1/16th Jewish, and one can convert.

You fight for us, you are one with us. I mean fight as in to argue!

A very large part of my identity as to the claim I make is immersed in my being born on December the 8th, 1962. The Feast Day of Immaculate Conception, Mary Queen of Scots birthday; Sammy Davis Jr.'s birthday, a famous convert to Judaism; Sam Kinison's birthday, a famous comedian formerly a Pentecostal minister (like me); David Carradine's birthday, Kwai Chang Caine; it falls on or near Hanukkah nearly every year, an 8 day festival, the Festival of the Lights, the Miracle of the Maccabees; & Eight Days a Week, the Beatles. The Lemniscate, infinity.

22At that time the Feast of Dedication took place in Jerusalem. It was winter, 23and Jesus was walking in the temple courts in Solomon’s Colonnade.

The Mashiach in my understanding is the Messiah referred to in Romans 14 grafting the Jews back in.

You're one of very few people who I told, "I'm Messiah" you behaved properly even if you don't accept it. When anyone makes a claim we deem irrational, the proper response is to placate the person, not intentionally irritate them.

Best regards,
Daniel Eugene Cox 144. It's one of the things my parents did for me.

You fight for us, you are one with us. — Daniel Cox

If reincarnation were true, which is doubtful, I would wish to return as a Jew.
I do not know if I would make a good one given how in the face of Christianity I am.

When anyone makes a claim we deem irrational, the proper response is to placate the person, not intentionally irritate them. — Daniel Cox

I value truth and put it forwards in the most polite way I can until my interlocutor gets his back up and gets belligerent or obtuse.

I like to live by this wise quote and have no problem in using tough love thanks to my lack of a proper upbringing.

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

We all come to these places to either learn, teach or preach. I come to teach in the hopes of losing an argument and learning something new. I argue hard for my side but hope the other side wins.

Learning something new or changing ones mind and having a paradigm shift is one of the greatest pleasures in life and I am greedy for my next treat. I have been waiting years now and my apotheosis may have ended my ability to have that pleasure.

Regards
DL

It's been my experience nearly everyone comes for the entertainment, the sheer excitement of participation.

I can back this up with some lines from the movie The Insider (1999).

Jeffrey Wigand: The process is known as "impact boosting". While not spiking nicotine, they clearly manipulate it. There was extensive use of this technology known as "ammonia chemistry". It allows for the nicotine to be more rapidly absorbed in the lung and therefore affect the brain and central nervous system.

This wasn't it, can't find it right now, almost out the door to donate blood (YAY! Me!!). The part I was looking for is Wigand testifying in court in violation of his confidentiality agreement. "Tobacco is specifically designed for maximum physiological impact. The pharmacological effect crosses the blood-brain barrier intact."

Something like that. It's why I'm here, my brain and my mind enjoy it.

The Lord loves those He corrects. I learned something about that when a group of haters got together and tried to have me murdered a couple times. I was seething with anger, contemplating revenge when I got a Rhema Word from God, "Vengeance is mine saith the Lord, I will reciprocate." God sort of told me, "Stick to your knitting, do what will make you a success, I'll take care of the rest." Life has been pretty damn good when I took the advice.

I am a teacher, I teach all kinds of stuff. At the mental clinic they call me, "Dr. Dan, Professor Dan, & Big Brother." The latter being my favorite. I teach all the time in therapy groups about the mind, those people educated in the field know next to nothing about it and are actually preaching alongside the Bible in a lot of instances, a practice frowned upon by the magisterial authority of academia bringing them there.

I also teach soap making. I'm getting better at the hobby/skill and I'm getting better at teaching it every day. So, if there is something you want to know, I'm your Huckleberry.

It's been my experience nearly everyone comes for the entertainment, the sheer excitement of participation. — Daniel Cox

That sounds more appealing than why I post. I see it as my social duty to try to reduce the harm and poor thinking I see out here. I try to live by the Golden Rule and sometimes quote the following.

Change the labels in this quote to women, minorities, gays or children being brainwashed by religions and it shows what we should be thinking and doing for each other.

"First they came for the Jews, but I did nothing because I'm not a Jew. Then they came for the socialists, but I did nothing because I'm not a socialist. Then they came for the Catholics, but I did nothing because I'm not a Catholic. Finally, they came for me, but by then there was no one left to help me." – Pastor Father Niemoller (1946)”

I am not a good person, but perhaps some day.

It is harder when I have a delinquent attitude and a ------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIjddye2JSA

Regards
DL

They have reasons. I guess that your reason is not worthy of you acting on it, a good thing, as you are still here buddy. — Gnostic Christian Bishop

Nah, I'm just too lazy.

Perhaps wanting to loose your cherry is what is keeping you going. ;-)
I had to throw that in there. — Gnostic Christian Bishop

I'm a guy. :rofl:

I'm a guy. :rofl: — Purple Pond

So am I.
The saying applies to all where I come from.
Regards
.DL