Given your belief that DJT is a good man, you might also vote for him, campaign for him, give him money, etc. — Srap Tasmaner
Could you tell me why you're pointing this out? I'm afraid I'm getting a little lost.Btw, grammatical form isn't necessarily logical form. Classic example — Srap Tasmaner
The object of belief can't be a physical object anyway. I believe that brick. That makes no sense. I believe that the brick is red. That makes sense. — frank
The student must first believe that something is there prior to believing that it is(called) a brick, and then(called) a red one at that.
— creativesoul
Two words: Noam Chomsky. — frank
Could you tell me why you're pointing this out? — frank
But aren't those more the consequences of belief? — frank
Sorry-- you suggested an analogy between believing and slapping. I think there is only a surface, grammatical similarity there. — Srap Tasmaner
And if you did not hold beliefs such as these, would you behave the way you do? — Srap Tasmaner
So answer this: John was an atheist, but there never was any behavior that followed from that. — frank
When you walk down the sidewalk in a big city, you're behaving as if the buildings you walk by won't fall on you, as if the cars you walk by won't explode, and so on. We could you say you behave as if you hold such beliefs. Do you? If asked, you might assent. Would we say such beliefs cause you to walk down the sidewalk, or even that they are reasons for doing so? Doesn't sound quite right. And yet attributing such beliefs to you makes sense. And if you did not hold beliefs such as these, would you behave the way you do? — Srap Tasmaner
Would you say it's unreasonable to say that John actually was an atheist due to the lack of behavioral consequence? — frank
Oh I see no reason not to include what he thinks. There may be no outward behavior, if that's what you mean, but I wouldn't demand that. You can keep a belief secret. — Srap Tasmaner
The content of belief matters. It must be gotten right if we are to report upon belief correctly.
It's all about the content. — creativesoul
Are you seriously suggesting you don't know what an idea is? — Janus
Floating in a sea of doubt, are you? — frank
I think belief is the filling in of blank created by the Cosmic First Question: Que Pasa? — frank
I think so much wrongness flows from this view that meaning pre-exists as "content". You have the image in mind of a semantic load that has a definite existence in its own right and simply has to be shovelled into a convenient syntactic container. — apokrisis
It is constraints on doubts all the way down to the point where we no longer find a reason to care. And that then is our epistemic foundation. Our own indifference. — apokrisis
I know how to use the word properly, but I have zero confidence that I know what I'm talking about. — frank
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