I'm not going to play your silly game. If you don't want to read what I write that's your prerogative. — Sam26
I would just rather you wouldn't moan about how uninformed people are on this forum and how sometimes you just have to abandon trying to explain anything to them. — frank
We use grammar in a way that seems to point to mental furniture; but that is an artifice of our grammar. — Banno
BTW: the issue of why beliefs shouldn't be considered to be primary truth-bearers is pretty interesting. — frank
If your argument is founded on the pretence that they share nothing, it fails. — Banno
Suppose that our beliefs change over time. But we don't notice. — Banno
Huh. So you can't distinguish anything from anything else, there's just the endless unified flow of Hanover's experience. Nothing special about beliefs-- they're part of your stream of consciousness like everything else, like me, and rocks. — Srap Tasmaner
Bored now. If I had known this is where we were headed, I wouldn't have bothered. — Srap Tasmaner
This view is just a basic recitation of indirect realism, and it's correct. — Hanover
Hopefully someone would remember the mistake and beat it down our throat, like Frank. — Hanover
But how does this observation contradict what I've said? — Hanover
Banno has brought up this problem:A cognitive action, and depends what you mean by "object of belief". — Sapientia
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