• dermanhuby
    12
    So I've been considering the current changes that things like globalization, technology and access to knowledge are having on shaping our path as a species.

    For this discussion, I'm interested in looking at how we can use calculative tools to approach the issue, in a way that doesn't rely on improving the human condition, but actually works under that assumption that the human condition (at least for now) evolves too slowly to be the factor that we can improve first.

    Note: I'm not saying that it is the case. But I think that in order to look at the alternative starting points to progress I will assume the human condition to be a constant in the equation.


    As the world becomes more socially conscious, the richest are becoming exponentially richer, and the bridge separating the remarkable innovations we've made with the people who need them the most remains sinfully wide. The threat of technology, nuclear war, climate change etc is growing faster than our species is collectively civilizing, or enlightening. So what then can the most educated, the most awakened, the most aware altruistic tier of people do to instigate a sharp shift in our coexistence? It seems that we need something, an era of intense change, if we are to avoid the seemingly imminent threat we pose to ourselves. The problem is that eras like the 60's etc are more unlikely as people are numbed by their facebook and prescription meds, and their focus on self. And also, the volume of information available is a catalyst for apathy.

    The word revolution may come to mind, and historically it has been what ushers in change. But I think that we are in a time where improving ourselves must come from tactics, strategy and long term investment. Revolution and conflict in this world would only benefit the elite, and at best segeway into another version of the same realities.

    I've been thinking about the differences between the power of a person's altruism and the power of a person's lack of conscience. It's an interesting thing to see how altruism is limited by it's own integrity while the freedom to seek goals by any means necessary has a compounding growth. Taking the metaphor of seeds, the beautiful seed of altruism may only grow under certain conditions while the self serving seed of selfishness will spread as a weed, inhabiting all the space it can.

    Take charities and corporations. We have seen many charities which were started with good intentions become profit making machines. To survive, they gradually evolve to become less efficient (in relation to our cabilities) and more open to being tools for political capital. Corporations on the other hand are absolutely thriving. They're growth is of a compounding nature, as they can climb around almost any legal restrictions put in place. We live in a world where companies like facebook and google are as powerful as nations.

    So this is where I started to consider other ways to approach the problems we are facing - IE not from examining the human condition.

    The elite and the most powerful institutions, states and individuals will not facilitate any radical shift of our existence that will affect their goals, way of life or accumulated power. So an adversarial stance against those who profit from the status quo seems futile. They're presentation of the "way of doing things" is deeply rooted in every aspect of society, and they are resourced with product, media, money and influence. But the thing that altruism has in its favour over this is its longevity. And if we can learn to structure our approach to progress in a way that outlives the lifespan of what is self serving, we can maybe get there in time.

    I have no real idea of how this could be done. But I think the following factors are important parts of the puzzle.

    1) In order to improve our world, the distance between the highest and lowest must be narrowed. That needs to be done from both sides IE improving the baseline of human existence with medicines, food, shelter and education, while dispersing power and influence to larger numbers of people.

    2) Find a way where the increase in equality and the deconcentration of power is done incrementally so as not to be seen as threatening to the structures and people at the top. Finding ways where they stand to benefit along with everyone else would be optimal - an example being startbucks gaining more customers by announcing they commit to hiring a percentage of refugees as their staff.

    3) creating more social capital and reverence around innovations that help the overall progression of global improvement - Have the budding elon musk's of tomorrow setting their genius towards working from the bottom up, rather than the top down. Encouraging the idea that they can still be on the frontier of human advancement by getting water to every human as opposed to sending some poor chap to mars. Again this is not trying to change people's ego, but to redirect it to lifting humanity as opposed to pulling it.

    I was thinking about starting points. Perhaps one could be creating altruism as a currency or capital. We've seen the power of mass mobility via social media, #metoo being an example. Weinstein was a catalyst, of course, but with twitter etc there was a path for the momentum of people's individual reactions to flow collectively, and was too fast and too reinforced to be squashed by all the money and influence that was thrown at it. If we could create an online platform, an app, or software that was a permanent fixture in our daily lives that could facilitate changes like metoo then it would be a place for causes to catch fire.

    Or an app/online platform that scores companies by their ability to provide for their communities. Restaurants gain points by giving spare food to the homeless, or companies scoring for their low carbon footprint, or companies who employ staff with disabilities. These things are already done by companies, but play their game by making them compete with each other over it. You could be a person who is sensitive to a certain cause, and only buy from companies with high accumulated scores for aiding that cause. The mindset and structures required are already ingrained in our lives. Take how we socialise online, and use that construct for how we consume. This is something that doesn't need a shift in the human condition, as people will do it simply to feel good about themselves, and it could take relatively little sacrifice for the individual if it was done correctly. Then the trend becomes ingrained in our way of life, and the human condition will evolve as a result, rather than the other way around.

    If there were enough of these types of structures and channels for altruism to take root, then maybe we could do what hasn't been done before, and enable altruism to work under the paradigm I used to explain the power of a person's lack of conscience. So that altruism is offered exponential growth and less obstacles. And none of this relies on improving our moral integrity, but actually gives it the opportunity to grow as it would anyway, but without the threat of extinction beating it to the finish line!

    Final thought:
    This is a collection of ideas that represent the furthest my imagination has gone in looking at what we are, and considering where we could most tangibly take autonomy over our future. I am sure that there are major problematic factors I haven't considered, and I really welcome them being pointed out. I would love your detailed explanations of the problems you find, and if you feel there's any idea above to tease out together, fire away and I'll happily bounce back and forth!

    Thanks for reading!
  • WISDOMfromPO-MO
    753

    The status quo is maintained by keeping people divided and obscuring the true causes of their strife, not by suppressing altruism.

    If people do not know who their true friends and true enemies are, their altruism cannot be marshalled optimally.

    "Francis insists that members of human communities encounter one another first as persons, before ideas, traditions, and ideologies, and that we strive to encounter the poor and excluded primarily and most deeply: “We need to build up this culture of encounter. We do not love concepts or ideas; no one loves a concept or an idea. We love people.”10" -- Intentional Communities in Our Common Home: Building Interfaith Cultures of Encounter in a New Appalachia
  • WISDOMfromPO-MO
    753

    For a riveting account of how the most oppressed people in the world may be finding solidarity and moving beyond the kinds of problems you bring up, I recommend reading Grassroots Post-Modernism: Remaking the Soil of Cultures, by Gustavo Esteva and Madhu Suri-Prakash. I read the 1998 edition.

    The authors' account of the First Intercontinental Encounter for Humanity and Against Neoliberalism was especially riveting.

    Also, the authors are quoted in the article in my previous post.
  • dermanhuby
    12
    I agree that keeping people divided and obscuring the causes of our strife are means to maintaining the status quo. And that supressing altruism is not the tool to do this. But I am more looking at altruism from the perspective of its ability to grow in different environments, and examining ways to give its potential the space to breathe, rather than a release of dormant altruism within individuals.

    "If people do not know who their true friends and true enemies are, their altruism cannot be marshalled optimally." - I believe this to be so, and it reinforces my point that the human condition is not the starting factor for improving the world, but will improve as the environment does. Take my example for the app idea of scoring companies by their interaction with society and social issues. This doesn't rely on any collective cohesion or even any intention of far reaching altruism, at an individual level. Each person will be biased to favour companies which are supportive of something personal to them. For example one man buys all his clothes at "clothes4bros". He has a disabled brother and this shop employs people with disabilities and has the highest score for equal opportunities in his city. He doesn't care about any other issues, but his commitment to "clothes4bros" contributes to the overall power, acceptence and importance of the app. So that will in turn strengthen all the other causes that are scored by the map. the individual's subjective morality is pooled in with the collectives, and the overall result forces corporations to factor social benefits into their shape and success. In effect, the compulsary altruism replaces marketing. The man's feelings towards other issues are irrelevent in the contribution he is making to the whole.

    "Francis insists that members of human communities encounter one another first as persons, " - This is true, but if the first encounter is discouraged by divisive rhetoric then finding ways to extract altruism and pool it together is a potential way of bypassing the barriers put in place like ignorance and divisiveness.
  • dermanhuby
    12
    Thanks, I'll check those out. Might straighten out a few of my wobbly ideas!
  • Wayfarer
    22.5k
    A lot of really good ideas there. One possible source that springs to mind is the (now quite old) book by E F Schumacher called Small is Beautiful. This basically become one of the fundamental texts of alternative economics, but it does have many points of convergence with what you’re suggesting. It’s been around since the 1970’s but is still in print. There is actually an E F Schumacher Society which is quite active and productive.

    Another initiative that springs to mind is Mohamed Yunus’ Microfinance initiatives which have had a transformative impact in many developing economies.

    But I sense what you’re getting at, it is more something which harnesses social media for positive incremental social change. I think there’s huge scope for such ideas. (Although as you can see, I’m not one of them :-) )
  • Wayfarer
    22.5k
    Another thing I might add is actually a little counter-factual to this OP - which is that by many measures, 2017 was actually the best year in human history.

    Every day, the number of people around the world living in extreme poverty (less than about $2 a day) goes down by 217,000, according to calculations by Max Roser, an Oxford University economist who runs a website called Our World in Data.Every day, 325,000 more people gain access to electricity. And 300,000 more gain access to clean drinking water.
    ...
    As recently as the 1960s, a majority of humans had always been illiterate and lived in extreme poverty. Now fewer than 15 percent are illiterate, and fewer than 10 percent live in extreme poverty. In another 15 years, illiteracy and extreme poverty will be mostly gone. After thousands of generations, they are pretty much disappearing on our watch.

    Just since 1990, the lives of more than 100 million children have been saved by vaccinations, diarrhea treatment, breast-feeding promotion and other simple steps.

    There are of course many enormous global problems to contend with, but it is worth contemplating these facts as well.
  • dermanhuby
    12
    Ya well the harnessing of social media is one example that I've considered, but the main thing I was contemplating was whether our idea of improving ourselves in order to improve the world isn't feasible under the time limits of our own self destructive potential. So to improve the way of life first, strateically, and then the improving of humanity will follow, within the structures we put in place to facilitate its evolution.

    So we would have to look at human development as something that can't evolve altruistically in an environment that doesn't nurture said altruistic nature.


    The 2017 being the best year in human history is clearly a positive thing. But the only hesitation I would have is that a key component in our development is the measure of the distance between A) The improvement seen in society and B) The resources to effect change.

    So if the base standard of living globally is raised by 2 percent from 2016 to 2017, this statistic looks good on its own. But then if increases in technology, innovation etc are increased significantly more, then it can be seen that the world is improving but our efforts might not be. IE The changes in measurement of what we can do in relation to what we do do, is very important to look at.
  • WISDOMfromPO-MO
    753
    The biggest change that I think is needed is for people to be honest. Honest with their own selves and honest with each other.

    As completely honest as they are capable of being.

    Once you are completely honest, such as acknowledging that in the U.S. we are living and progressing with resources made available by the removal of Native Americans, the correct thing to do next will likely fall into place.

    We seem to want to live in denial.

    Altruism probably cannot begin to flourish in individual and collective deep, intense denial.
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