You seem to be having a problem with "proportionate response". — Bitter Crank
It's a family matter, not the whole world's concern. Keep it within the family. — Bitter Crank
If you're arguing that 16-19 is an adult in any other sense than legal ability to consent in some jurisdictions... — tim wood
then I have to imagine — tim wood
If not isn't it somewhat condescending for you to assume that they don't have minds of their own or can make decisions for themselves. ' — Perplexed
Two of the girls complained to the police — Tree Falls
BTW, how old are you? Straight or gay? Older or younger than your brother? Just wondering what your relationship with your brother is like, outside of this particular age of consent issue. — Bitter Crank
We had a pretty close, but argumentative relationship before his arrests. Since then, hardly any relationship. — Tree Falls
Are you in possession of any of the facts relating to the complaints? — Perplexed
So should I or shouldn't I put up a website telling the world that my brother likes to sleep with 16-19 year old girls? If not, why not? — Tree Falls
Here's another perspective. Many 16-19 year old girls like to have sex. Who's to say that the experience these girls had with your brother wasn't overwhelmingly a positive one. — Perplexed
Did these arguments relate in any way to your brothers attitude and behaviour towards women? — Perplexed
Have you considered trying to rebuild the relationship so that you can be a positive influence to your brother? — Perplexed
Yes if you have facts and not just hearsay. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
With all due respect, whether or not a girl of 16 yrs old "likes to have sex" is irrelevant when you are speaking sex with a man over the age of 40 yrs old — ArguingWAristotleTiff
Obviously how mature any particular sixteen-year-old will be in terms of personality and so forth can and does vary, and the law doesn't account for this distinction. The law can't account for it, because it would be too impractical to implement. But nevertheless, the fact remains that there are some sixteen year olds which are sufficiently adult-like in various respects, one of them being the ability to consent to sex. — Sapientia
Here's another perspective. Many 16-19 year old girls like to have sex. Who's to say that the experience these girls had with your brother wasn't overwhelmingly a positive one. Have you spoken to any of them or have any reason to believe that your brothers actions have caused them harm? If not isn't it somewhat condescending for you to assume that they don't have minds of their own or can make decisions for themselves. — Perplexed
I don't know if the OP is a school exercise, or real. It doesn't matter. The brother, as portrayed, has sociopathic tendencies. With such a person you do not discuss, you do not reason, you do not argue. You do your best to set boundaries (not, actually, that you think best) that achieve what needs to be achieved, and resolve not to be buffaloed by the attacks that are pretty much sure to follow.My brother is a master rationalizer. — Tree Falls
So, to clarify, you wouldn't tell your friend that your brother might try to have sex with his 16 year old daughter, given your brother's past history? — Tree Falls
Here's another perspective: can I screw all the women in your family? Who knows, they might find it an overwhelmingly positive experience. On that chance, maybe I should screw all the women in your family. Indeed, if you think it through, you'll realize their views - and your views - on the matter don't matter! — tim wood
Just to get this clear, apart from making sexual comments about my family, you are arguing that the views of the females engaged in sexual act do not matter. Is this correct? — Perplexed
Many 16-19 year old girls like to have sex. Who's to say that the experience these girls had with your brother wasn't overwhelmingly a positive one. Have you spoken to any of them or have any reason to believe that your brothers actions have caused them harm? If not isn't it somewhat condescending for you to assume that they don't have minds of their own or can make decisions for themselves. — Perplexed
Public warning seems too much — tim wood
Could you expand on why you think a public warning seems too much? — Tree Falls
Due process. You are not a court. — Bitter Crank
Incidentally, I think it is noteworthy that my initial comment which was in part intended to defend to right of young women to consent to their own sexual relationships seemed to provoke an emotional reaction on your part. — Perplexed
You are assuming suspect competence based on age alone.
I was trying to establish facts about the individuals involved, which I think is a better way to proceed. — Perplexed
Would the difference between telling my friends and telling the world be the private versus public nature of the statement? — Tree Falls
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