“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”

― Mark Twain

More of the same - other people's ideas and avoiding your foibles.

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Is that back when you said the FBI was going to collapse under his leadership? I’ll give you my answer in two more years. — NOS4A2

I think the FBI has already collapsed to something similar as ICE... but let's look at the things later, when history of this era is written.

I am just reading Viktor Frankl's Yes to Life, and came across this sentence in the Introduction which made me think of today -

Frankl asked how it might be possible to resurrect and sustain concepts like a noble meaning in life, which had been so wantonly demolished by a torrent of lies.

How often does someone call the police to tell them that they know that someone is raping children, and then it's just left at that?

I could see it. It’s a small town of less than ten thousand and Trump is the most prominent figure there. Trump probably knows the guy.

Any Republican, in the House or the Senate, that votes against TARIFFS will seriously suffer the consequences come Election time, and that includes Primaries! Our Trade Deficit has been reduced by 78%, the Dow Jones has just hit 50,000, and the S&P, 7,000, all Numbers that were considered IMPOSSIBLE just one year ago. In addition, TARIFFS have given us Great National Security because the mere mention of the word has Countries agreeing to our strongest wishes. TARIFFS have given us Economic and National Security, and no Republican should be responsible for destroying this privilege. PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP — Donald J. Trump · Feb 11, 2026

He's dished out threats before. Almost made it standard procedure.

Chokehold
^{— Nora Benavidez et al · Free Press · Dec 2025}

Not that anyone cares anymore about what this old fumbling idiot has to say, but just for fun;

Any Republican, in the House or the Senate, that votes against TARIFFS will seriously suffer the consequences come Election time, and that includes Primaries! — Donald J. Trump · Feb 11, 2026

Doubtful. Some have, many haven’t. He’s a lame duck, and old. Most can’t wait for him to just go away.

Our Trade Deficit has been reduced by 78%, — Donald J. Trump · Feb 11, 2026

Totally made up.

the Dow Jones has just hit 50,000, and the S&P, 7,000, all Numbers that were considered IMPOSSIBLE just one year ago. — Donald J. Trump · Feb 11, 2026

No one— anywhere — thought this was impossible.

the mere mention of the word has Countries agreeing to our strongest wishes. — Donald J. Trump · Feb 11, 2026

Like who? Palau?

What an imbecile.

what this old fumbling idiot has to say, but just for fun; — Mikie

On the same day, he posted this -

Canada has taken advantage of the United States on Trade for many years. They are among the worst in the World to deal with, especially as it relates to our Northern Border. TARIFFS make a WIN for us, EASY. Republicans must keep it that way! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

Certainly, everyone knows he is just a deluded windbag.

In any case, Congress voted to end his Canada tariff scam

Please tell me there is no-one stupid enough in the US to fall for this nonsense -

(Bondi made a stupid spectacle of herself and proved she is now Trump's Maxwell)

Trump posted today -

AG Pam Bondi, under intense fire from the Trump Deranged Radical Left Lunatics, was fantastic at yesterday’s Hearing on the never ending saga of Jeffrey Epstein, where the one thing that has been proven conclusively, much to their chagrin, was that President Donald J. Trump has been 100% exonerated of their ridiculous Russia, Russia, Russia type charges. Actually, it is the SLIMEBALL Democrats, many of them big Donors and Politicians, that have been proven GUILTY! “Republican” Loser, Sanctimonious RINO Congressman, Thomas Massie, made a total fool of himself yesterday, fighting aimlessly against a hopeless agenda of Hate and Stupidity, as most clearly stated by his crashing Job Approval Numbers in the Great Commonwealth of Kentucky, where a Military Hero Opponent, Ed Gallrein, is crushing him in the Polls. He is now in “Wacky” Liz Cheney territory! Nobody cared about Epstein when he was alive, they only cared about him when they thought he could create Political Harm to a very popular President who has brought our Country back from the brink of extinction, and very quickly, at that! In fact, this attempt by the Democrats to take away attention from tremendous Republican SUCCESS is backfiring badly. Maybe they should focus on their quest to Open our Borders to the World’s Greatest Criminals, have Transgender for Everybody or, get Men, no matter their size or strength, to play in Women’s Sports. Thank you for your attention to this matter! PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

Totally made up. — Mikie

More like total manipulative bullshit - If he'd been honest, it would be true but wholly irrelevant and stupid as it applied to a single month. Representing almost nothing of significance.

Otherwise, yep, 100% on point.

The Trump administration on Thursday revoked a scientific finding that climate change is a danger to public health, an idea that President Donald Trump called “a scam.” But repeated scientific studies say it’s a documented and quantifiable harm.

Again and again, research has found increasing disease and deaths — thousands every year — in a warming world.

The Environmental Protection Agency finding in 2009, under the Obama administration, has been the legal underpinning of nearly all regulations fighting global warming.

Thousands of scientific studies have looked at climate change and its effects on human health in the past five years and they predominantly show climate change is increasingly dangerous to people.
Many conclude that in the United States, thousands of people have died and even more were sickened because of climate change in the past few decades.

For example, a study on “Trends in heat-related deaths in the U.S., 1999-2023 ” in the prestigious JAMA journal shows the yearly heat-related death count and rate have more than doubled in the past quarter century from 1,069 in 1999 to a record high 2,325 in 2023.

A 2021 study in Nature Climate Change looked at 732 locations in 43 countries — including 210 in the United States — and determined that more than a third of heat deaths are due to human-caused climate change. That means more than 9,700 global deaths a year attributed to warming from the burning of coal, oil and natural gas.

A new study published this week found that 2.2% of summer deaths in Texas from 2010 to 2023 were heat related “as climate change brings more frequent and intense heat to Texas.”

It's been a much-researched topic. In the more than 15 years, since the government first determined climate change to be a public health danger, there have been more than 29,000 peer-reviewed studies that looked at the intersection of climate and health, with more than 5,000 looking specifically at the United States, according to the National Library of Medicine's PubMed research database. More than 60% of those studies have been published in the past five years.

“Study after study documents that climate change endangers health, for one simple reason: It’s true,” said Dr. Howard Frumkin, professor emeritus of public health at the University of Washington and a former director of the National Center for Environmental Health appointed by President George W. Bush.

“It boggles the mind that the administration is rescinding the endangerment finding; it’s akin to insisting that the world is flat or denying that gravity is a thing.”

In a Thursday event at the White House, Trump disagreed, saying: “It has nothing to do with public health. This is all a scam, a giant scam.”

Yet another appalling demonstration of Trump's ignorance and his total disregard of science and scientists. This one with planetary implications.

Yet another appalling demonstration of Trump's ignorance and his total disregard of science and scientists — Wayfarer

He's also allowed "forever chemicals" in pesticides to make the chemical companies rich while making the people sick.

One of the chemicals is isocycloseram which is linked to reduced testicle size, lower sperm count, and liver toxicity

The Economist/YouGov poll taken in January, 2026 has found the following -

71% of Americans feel that things in the US are out of control

61% feel the direction of the US is off on the wrong track

58% are dissatisfied with how democracy is working in the US


https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_z9wtNZI.pdf

Yes— truly gross. This time around going full blown climate denial, and then some. Some say ICE is the worst part of this administration— I think the environmental policies will ruin many more lives, and may just be the death knell for the species as we know it.

Cue the know nothing apologists who ensure us it’s all an exaggeration and we’ll be just fine.

The “Save America Act” passed the house, finally. Why do certain politicians not want voters to prove their citizenship, like other civilized countries? I’ve heard racist excuses that they think minorities are too stupid and poor to get IDs, and other nonsense, but I can’t see any coherent motive other than that they want illegals to vote.

From here:

An estimated 21 million Americans do not have documents proving their citizenship readily available, and 2.6 million lack any form of government-issued photo ID, according to the Brennan Center for Justice and the University of Maryland's Center for Democracy and Civic Engagement.

And voter fraud is exceedingly rare:

Studies of voter rolls have found very few noncitizen voters. As of July 2024, the Heritage Foundation database includes only 24 noncitizen voting cases from between 2003 and 2023. In an audit of the 2016 elections, the North Carolina State Board of Elections found that 41 out of 4.8 million total votes were by noncitizens, and between 2017 and 2024, only three cases were referred for prosecution. In 2018, CNN reported that in the past three years, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach had convicted three noncitizens of voting out of 1.8 million voters. A Brennan Center for Justice study of 2016 data from 42 jurisdictions found an estimated 30 incidents of suspected noncitizen voting out of 23.5 million votes cast (or .0001% of votes). A review in Georgia found that no potential noncitizens had been allowed to register to vote between 1997 and 2022. In September 2024, an audit in Oregon found that more than 1,200 possible noncitizens had been added to the state's voter rolls by mistake; the issue was quickly fixed and no more than 5 noncitizens had cast ballots.

So the law would do overwhelmingly more harm than good.

An estimated 21 million Americans do not have documents proving their citizenship readily available, and 2.6 million lack any form of government-issued photo ID, according to the Brennan Center for Justice and the University of Maryland's Center for Democracy and Civic Engagement.

How do you know they are Americans if they cannot prove their citizenship?

As of January 2024, more than 7.2 million migrants had illegally crossed into the U.S. over the Southwest border during U.S. President Joe Biden's administration — a number higher than the individual populations of 36 states.

How do you know they are Americans if they cannot prove their citizenship? — NOS4A2

I don't know, I'm not the people who did the study.

But I'm curious, how does one get the identification to prove that one is an American citizen without already having proof that one is an American citizen?

As of January 2024, more than 7.2 million migrants had illegally crossed into the U.S. over the Southwest border during U.S. President Joe Biden's administration — a number higher than the individual populations of 36 states. — NOS4A2

Was this factoid going anywhere?

But I'm curious, how does one get the identification to prove that one is an American citizen without already having proof that one is an American citizen?

Birth certificate, social security number, passport.

Do you require ID to vote?

Birth certificate, social security number, passport. — NOS4A2

And millions don't have them: https://www.npr.org/2024/06/11/nx-s1-4991903/voter-registration-proof-of-citizenship-requirement

So my question is: how does one get them without already having one of them?

Do you require ID to vote? — NOS4A2

We do as of 2023. That meant that almost 2,000,000 people couldn't vote in the 2024 general election.

So my question is: how does one get them without already having one of them?

You city gives you a birth certificate when born. You get a certificate of citizenship when you become a citizen legally. Is that not how it works in your country?

We do as of 2023. That meant that almost 2,000,000 people couldn't vote in the 2024 general election.

I thought you were forced to vote or get a fine.

I thought you were forced to vote or get a fine. — NOS4A2

That's Australia, not the UK.

You city gives you a birth certificate when born. You get a certificate of citizenship when you become a citizen legally. Is that not how it works in your country? — NOS4A2

I'm sure my parents were given my birth certificate when I was born. I don't have it. But that doesn't answer the question. Millions of Americans don't have their birth certificate, a passport, or any other relevant ID. So how do they then get one?

I'm sure my parents were given my birth certificate when I was born. I don't have it. But that doesn't answer the question. Millions of Americans don't have their birth certificate, a passport, or any other relevant ID. So how do they then get one?

So you are assuming, without evidence, that these people are American. Tough titty. If one cannot provide a drivers licence, he cannot legally drive. If he cannot provide a passport, he cannot fly.

It’s the same as in your country, indeed any civilized country. In my state you can go to vital statistics to prove your birth and they can get you a birth certificate if you have lost one. You can use other IDs to get other IDs, and so on.

Do you think illegals should vote in elections?

they want illegals to vote — NOS4A2

:lol:

Another stupid solution to a nonexistent problem. Fortunately, congress has not — and will not — pass this idiotic legislation. The SAVE act is dead. Good riddance.

So you are assuming, without evidence, that these people are American. — NOS4A2

I'm trusting that the people who came up with these numbers know what they're talking about. Whereas you seem to be assuming, without evidence, that anyone without ID isn't American?

Tough titty. If one cannot provide a drivers licence, he cannot legally drive. If he cannot provide a passport, he cannot fly. — NOS4A2

The right to vote is a bit more important than the right to drive and the right to travel abroad.

It’s the same as in your country, indeed any civilized country. In my state you can go to vital statistics to prove your birth and they can get you a birth certificate if you have lost one. You can use other IDs to get other IDs, and so on. — NOS4A2

Which is fine if it's quick, easy, and free, but a lot of people do not have the time or the money, especially if they can't drive because they don't have a driving license. I think you're in denial about the reality of how difficult many people's lives are.

Do you think illegals should vote in elections? — NOS4A2

No, and they almost never do. Whereas millions of legal citizens will be disenfranchised by ID requirements. The law does far more harm than good.

Which is fine if it's quick, easy, and free, but a lot of people do not have the time or the money, especially if they can't drive because they don't have a driving license. I think you're in denial about the reality of how difficult many people's lives are.

I think it’s condescending that you’re treating people as if they cannot do the basic requirements of getting ID. In fact there are plenty of supports to help one to do so. Do you believe they were born in the woods or something?

No, and they almost never do. Whereas millions of legal citizens will be disenfranchised by ID requirements. The law does far more harm than good.

How do you know they almost never do if they cannot prove who they are?

I think it’s condescending that you’re treating people as if they cannot do the basic requirements of getting ID. In fact there are plenty of supports to help one to do so. Do you believe they were born in the woods or something? — NOS4A2

And yet millions don't have ID. That's the reality.

How do you know they almost never do if they cannot prove who they are? — NOS4A2

You're asking me to prove a negative. The burden is on the government to prove that someone is doing something illegally, and even the Heritage Foundation could only find ~1,600 cases over 40 years.

And yet millions don't have ID. That's the reality.

But if they wanted to, they could get one. That’s the reality.

You're asking me to prove a negative. The burden is on the government to prove that someone is doing something illegally, and even the Heritage Foundation could only find ~1,600 cases over 30 years.

Sorry, even the heritage foundation doesn’t know how many illegals have voted in elections. There is no way to know either way if no one has to prove their citizenship.