I don't get how that answers my question to T Clark. — Patterner

I was trying to give some ideas on emergence. It wasn't an answer for your questions to TC.

Let's take an example. X = triangle, Y = lines.
If a triangle emerged from lines, then the triangle must exist separate from the lines.
That doesn't make sense to me. — SolarWind

The triangle was made up with the lines. It didn't emerge from the lines.

I was trying to give some ideas on emergence. It wasn't an answer for your questions to TC. — Corvus

Ok. I seem to be experiencing operating difficulties lately.

If X emerged from Y, then X must exist separate from Y.
— Corvus

Let's take an example. X = triangle, Y = lines.
If a triangle emerged from lines, then the triangle must exist separate from the lines.
That doesn't make sense to me. — SolarWind

It didn't make sense to me either. How about an example of emergence that I think a lot of people agree on?
X = liquidity
Y = the properties of particles and the laws of physics

I don't see how X exists separate from Y.

I don't see how X exists separate from Y. — Patterner

Does liquidity emerge from the properties of particles? Could you explain how it happens in detail?

The triangle was made up with the lines. It didn't emerge from the lines. — Corvus

In my opinion, this is an emergence. You can also draw (too short) lines that do NOT form a triangle.

So the triangle depends on the configuration, just like in a physical example.

I just think I'm not understanding you. It seems like you're saying we have tables made out of wood and nails, but we can't make tables out of wood and nails. — Patterner

I’ll start off with my clever response before I come back with my more straightforward one

Clever response—It’s not making the table out of wood and nails, it’s making the wood out of atoms and molecules.

Straightforward response—As I said, I can’t think of anything else to say that might convince you or at least help you understand what I’m trying to say. I don’t think my own understanding is good enough to come up with something better.

In my opinion, this is an emergence. You can also draw (too short) lines that do NOT form a triangle.

So the triangle depends on the configuration, just like in a physical example. — SolarWind

So, you are saying the triangle is not a separate existence from the lines. Is this correct?
Does it mean the triangle is the lines, and triangle exists in the lines?

It sounds something not quite correct too. Emergence is an event on its own. You don't make up things to make something to emerge. If you did, then you wouldn't call it emergence.

A triangle can only be made from the lines by your intervention either by your drawing it, or making it up with the straight lines of wire or sticks. It is your doings, fabrication or workings whatever you may call it, but it is not an emergence.