• Banno
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    Is this one of those "last post wins" things?
  • Wheatley
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    Oh dear, not only do you not like my threads it doesn't seem like you think much of me either.

    What's next? You don't like my country?
  • Banno
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    You do take things so personally.

    It's just that I don't see you post here are contributions to the topic. I'm giving you enough rope. Do with it as you will.
  • Wheatley
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    You do take things so personally.Banno
    I already know that.

    Bye.
  • Pfhorrest
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    The best that you might hope for would be a religion that attempted to base itself on science, which to me would seem to be no more than wishful thinkingBanno

    Raëlism teaches that an extraterrestrial species known as the Elohim created humanity using their advanced technology. An atheistic religion, it believes that the Elohim have historically been mistaken for gods. It holds that throughout history the Elohim have created forty Elohim/human hybrids who have served as prophets preparing humanity for news about their ultimate origins. Among those listed as prophets are The Buddha, Jesus of Nazareth, and Muhammad, with Raël himself being the fortieth and final prophet. Raëlists believe that since the Hiroshima bomb of 1945, humanity has entered an Age of Apocalypse in which it is threatening itself with nuclear annihilation. It argues that humanity must find a way of harnessing new scientific and technological development for peaceful ends, and that once this has been achieved the Elohim shall return to Earth to share their technology with humanity and usher in a utopia. To this end, the Raëlians have been committed to building an embassy for the Elohim, incorporating a landing pad for the latter's spaceship. Raëlians promote a liberal ethical system with a strong emphasis on sexual experimentation, engage in daily meditation, and hope for physical immortality through human cloning.Wikipedia on Raëlism

    According to this story, 75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and detonated hydrogen bombs in the volcanoes. The thetans then clustered together, stuck to the bodies of the living, and continue to do this today. Scientologists at advanced levels place considerable emphasis on isolating body thetans and neutralizing their ill effects.Wikipedia on Scientology
  • Banno
    8.3k
    Wishful thinking ...or just making shite up. :up:
  • Frank Apisa
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    Banno
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    ↪Frank Apisa I've re-read this with eyes that are less wearied, but still think it muddled.

    Yes, i was thinking of omnipotent deities when I wrote the OP. But I don't see how Thor or The God Of Small Things would be useful as the answer to a philosophical conundrum.


    Edit: actually, the God of Small Things might be an exception...
    Banno


    Okay, we may be at an impasse, Banno.

    Perhaps it is that I do not accurately understand what you were trying to convey with the expression, “God is not a suitable tool for philosophical explanation because god is omnipotent and omniscient. Any question is given a sufficient reply by blaming god. Hence, philosophical discussion stops at god. Of corse, that does not imply that god is the correct answer.”

    My position, which is that of an agnostic, is that a GOD or gods may exist. If so, that GOD or those gods may, indeed, impact on anything or everything.

    Your position, it seemed to me, tended to eliminate the prospect of any gods (merely to eliminate them from consideration of "philosophical" considerations…which I considered an appropriate position to dispute.

    Either I was wrong in how I was taking your remarks…or in some other way misunderstanding what you are suggesting with that thesis.

    I’ll just follow along for a bit to see where this goes…and if my initial assumptions prove to be wrong, I’ll leave things be.
  • Banno
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    I am agnostic as well. The point I was making is methodological, in that insofar as god answered every question god is sufficient for us to divest ourselves of further enquiry.

    The best theistic reply is perhaps the Thomist position. But most of the Christians hereabouts appear to be Protestant.
  • Banno
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    Just by way of a bump for this thread, has any one else noticed that the air seems clearer recently?
  • Pfhorrest
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    If you mean the quality of the forum, it has seemed both busier and less hostile in the parts that I’ve interacted with the past few days.
  • Banno
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    Cool. I'm happy to take the credit.
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